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Sickening

posted 18 years ago by KellyCarrieSaraAlanis
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i just recently finished studying the holocaust in my social studies class and am now reading the diary of anne frank in reading class (the play). and if this has been discussed before my apologies but i didnt know where else to express my feelings on the holocaust. my feelings on the holocaust is that it is honestly sickening. it is very sad to see that other people would do this to other people just because of there beliefs. i feel very bad for anne and what she had to go through everyday she was in hiding and when she went to the concenstration camps is something no one could feel. it is disgusting that people would do this that one man hated jews so much that he wanted to kill them all. its sick. im sorry if i sound a little bit repeatitive. i mean what was going through hitlers mind when he said go through with the holocaust? didnt he care about all those people that died? and why couldn't we have came in sooner to save more people? its so disturbing. my teacher also told us 2 years ago she got the chance to go to the consentration camps to see throughout the camps. she said she couldnt even go in some rooms because it smelled so bad that she threw up after being in the room where they would burn the bodies (im sorry i forget wat its called!) i am doing my own personal research on the holocaust because i am now interested in it. and no i am not some teachers pet, i am not the kinda person who gets A+ in all there classes i got a C- in social studies. the holocaust although sickening somehow interest me like i actually payed attention and asked questions and stuff like that. we are reading the book NIGHT next has anyone read it before? and if so was it good cause i have heard mixed opinions. also does anyone else recommend any other books (not like biography books like the type anne frank is about real people.) And i would also like to hear your opinions on the holocaust and why some people don't believe it happened.

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[–] Shinryu81 18 years ago

I'm from the Netherlands and I absolutely can't understand some people and religions keep on denying the Holocaust or the Shoah as jews call it. I've heard stories of my grandparents that friends of them were being arrested and punished by the invading Nazi's. Or just deported to camps. And it was not random, it was clearly aimed towards ethnic minorities such as Jews, Gays, and disabled people. It WAS a Holocaust in its purest form.

I also visited concentration camps and its true. There is a dark atmosphere hanging above them, even to this day. To see it, and think what actually went on in there leaves a big impact. It makes you think. If Hell existed, it would be there for sure. People who actually were being kept prisoner in there, treated like fricking guinea pigs... it surpasses ones baddest nightmare.

But as a whole, I find WW2 to be the most interesting. I've read a lot about it. Its intriguing and touching. Humanity's darkest hours for sure. Thats why Anne's Diary is so invaluable. Its actually a real time record of a horrible and devastating war.

[–] JimmyJojo1 18 years ago

Trust me, most people (sane people anyway) think the holocaust is pretty sickening. I don't know how you couldn't. But considering how much evidence there is to it, there are some pretty stupid people in this world who can actually deny it happening. My history teacher last year told me that some guy in the pub told him it never happened, and my teacher had to resist the urge to punch the guy. I think one of the worst things about the holocaust was the 'medical/scientific' experiments they performed on the jews in the camps. My brother has this book all about the third reich, and they go into scarily descriptive details about organ removals and even worse stuff. And yeah Hitler was pretty crazy. He really did believe that jews weren't human, and he felt he was doing the world a favour by ridding the world of them and other so-called 'lesser' beings. oh, and were the rooms you were refering to the gas chambers? I wasn't sure if that's what you meant, cause that's were they sent all the prisoners to be killed, but then they threw all the bodies in pits (which the fit jews had to dig out at the concentration camps) and burnt them. I always thought that was awful, that the jews basically had to dig their own graves, and they were kept doing that until they were weak enough to be gased. Makes me shiver

But as disturbing as it is, I've always found the holocaust and the events of WW2 extremely interesting as well (and like you, I was an average C student in history etc). It's just something you can't stop thinking about. I haven't read Night, but I plan to. I've read some quite good books on it, probably the best one I can recommend is this one I read last year called "Elli- coming of age in the holocaust" by Livia E Bitton Jackson. It's a true story about a holocaust survivor who went into the camps when she was hmmm....I think 14 or something. I couldn't put it down till I was finished, it was amazing. And it actually goes into a lot of detail about life in the camps. Very disturbing though.

Sorry about the length of the reply. As I said, I always found this stuff very interesting, so I figured if you were too, you'd probably appreciate some of that info if you didn't already know it. ciao

[–] Funniergirl 18 years ago

If you get a chance to go to the Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles you will be able to get first hand accounts from survivers who volunteer and speak of their experiences. I have been to a few sessions and always come away depressed but more aware of the intolerance. Upon entering the inside of the Museum you will be given two choices...One will be You are tolerant of everyone and you are not in possession of any prejudice and the other one is you possess prejudice and intolerance. The enterance to the first one is always locked because everyone has been fed some kind of intolerance in their lives whether you want to admit it or not.

[–] rocknrollruby07 18 years ago

Ever since I first discovered about Anne Frank, I have read nearly every book about her and the Holocaust. I find what Hitler did to all those people so shocking and unbelievable, and I continue to read more and more books about it because I am trying to find out why he did this, what was going through his mind? How did people find the strength to survive this?- what's the answer??

[–] Funniergirl 18 years ago

Try finding your answer at the MOT that I just described above.
The Jews were defenseless. They were not prepared to resist the Nazi's. Hitler took advantage of these people. He blamed them for the harsh economy of Germany and Austria, which was the aftermath of WWI. The Jewish community always maintained strength through education and most had money. Hitler robbed them not only of their spirits..but their businesses and money, too. Albert Einstein got wind of this long before and took off. There was a massive brain drain in Germany..The brains were mostly Jewish Scientist. They would have been the only possible power the Jews had but they deserted Germany to live peaceful and productive lives in the states. Most likely they too would have been murdered.

[–] rocknrollruby07 18 years ago

What scares me the most is this nightmare image of Nazi Germany, where millions of people including young children were brainwashed and agreed that the Jews should be erased from the earth.
What always haunts me is the 'Jewish question' which Hitler had to decide the answer. What can he do with all the Jews? I have always been horrified by this. It is completely inhuman.

[–] Funniergirl 18 years ago

Most of the Aryan children were shielded from the actual horror. Denial was prevalent and propagana held in high regard. Hitler hired famous filmmaker Leni Refienstahl to create his propanda films to reflect, to the Aryans, how wonderful life was or will be with his leadership.

Of course, ..."What would he do with all the Jews?" Completely erase them from the Earth..But, what he didn't realize was Jews come in all colors and cultural backgrounds...He could not have possibly taken every Jewish life. It was just his deranged fantasy and his own self hate.

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[–] EuphoricxWonderland 18 years ago

I agree, lionboisback!

Tonight, we are free men, lads! We should drink until we cannot piss straight!

[–] serena_bunny18 17 years ago

I completely agree with what you're saying. Growin g up i was always sort of interested int he topic but when I was a junior in college I took a Holcaust class and eventually changed my major to history and now I'm starting my master's in holocaust studies. it is horrible how there's people who actually deny this. ( I remeber seeing a video on holocaust denyers but i can't remeber what it was called and I apologize for that.) Many deny it on the basis that the number of deaths was exagerated or that there is not alot of eveidence left (of course many nazis destroyed information and evidence and ran for their live when they knew the allies were coming for them) I even set aside a whole month on the holocaust for my students last year (i'm a history teacher as you can see).

It was an amazing opportunity to open up there eyes to these sort of things. And besides, studying the history we also read books like "The Devil's Arithmetic" By Jane YOlen (which is an amazing book and there's also a movie!). I also wanted to show them that there were good people out there too so we also read "Number the Stars" by Lois Lowry. Some of the books I own are The Holocaust Cronicles( aavialabe at most borders), Hitler's willing executioners, The Nazi officer's wife, etc. I haven't read "Night" yet but my brother loved it.

The most important thing we can do is conttinue to educate eachother on the subject in the hopes that we can try top stop future genocides and holocausts in the future.

[–] maeaculpa 17 years ago

You're a history teacher? That is scary. Maybe you should think of brushing up on your spelling and grammar before writing a thesis.

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[–] maddiemoiselle 17 years ago

it is horrible, isn't it? i'm related to one of those people (AKA my dad!!!) and i am Anne's number one fan and stuff. the Holocaust, i thought at first, was just a way for kids to shut-up and stop calling each other names and to say discrimination is wrong, but after reading a lot about Anne Frank and writing a biography on her, i know the truth: it happened around sixty years ago by the stupidest person on earth, Adolf Hitler.

[–] Fifteen_Mintues_Of_Fame 17 years ago

The book NIGHT in my opinion, is a wonderful book....but its not wonderful in the traditional sense of the word. Its a great view of what the camps were really like written by someone who was sadly imprisoned there. It has became one of my favorite books of all time....It made me cry too.(something that books don't usaully do to me) But I highly recommend it. Especally to someone who is really into the holocaust.

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[–] ketone_of_sexiness 17 years ago

It still smelled? really? That is chilling. Why does it still smell-gas, or alot of people died there?

[–] movieman-232 17 years ago

I think the reason it still smells in the camps is because what took place there took a long time and there wasn't much in antiseptics in the camps because the nazis didn't think the Jews need it due to them being filthy...in the nazi's minds they were.

Why did it happen? Well, there are evil people in this world, and they do what they can to get whatever they want. I think maybe hell is what the nazis wanted for the Jews, and that was what they were given. But the nazis were also given hell, but not nearly enough to suit them, if you ask me.

If you can't believe that there are deniers out there may I direct you to a web page here on the IMDb boards. The thread was by me; I was trying to tell others not to just follow blindly at the heels of Holocaust deniers, that it really isn't that hard to believe over 10 million died. The movies is "Hitler: The rise of evil" and the thread is "Over 10 million were killed during the Holocaust - how do I know...read" That'll show you that even though there is a lot of evidence, just because it is too horrible to fathom the evil behind it, they still can't believe it happened because it makes them uncomfortable. Like it wasn't uncomfortable for those who found out that a family member or members lived through it. They usually say they aren't anti-semetic, but I think they are deluded.

And as to the rooms the thread starter referred to, I think the room was where the crematoriums were located. That was where the dead were shipped after the gas chambers. Others were taken to the country side and made to dig holes to be shot and killed and fall into...or be shoved into.

I don't think Hitler had much going on in his mind; he was a sociopath, some call 'em psychopaths. They don't have a conscience, so whatever they do they do not feel the same about it as we do. A murder to them isn't anything signifigant, much like a hick up, if it goes away pretty quickly, what does it matter?

And it would please me if you all would check out that thread I made in that other movie forum. Maybe you can figure some way of making a denier understand the error of their way.