Not all Germans were bad.


Even though a majority of the German soldiers were pretty bad.

Most of them were tricked.

After seeing the movie, I noticed that the soldiers even told Otto Frank, "If you went to the camp you would of lived a decent life." .. Even though it wasn't true... You can see that they were just following orders. They noticed his soldiers footlocker and they respected him. From, "Hurry up" to " Take your time,"

If you think about it, Anne could of survived if she was there in time. She tried to bribe them. It succeeded, BUT... She had already left.


The soldiers weren't always bad.

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I guess that's why that same soldier later asked Miep had she no shame for hiding them.

By the bribery I'm guessing you're talking about Miep but she never came close to succeeding. They were too blindsided by their hatred for the Jews to be bribed.

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Actually.
If you read a little more about it.
What actually happened was that she talked to the officer.
He said that if she brought the money, he would free them. BUT... She didn't get there in time. They left before she got the chance.

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How true! I hate it when people use Nazis and Germans interchangeably. Even some historians and history book authors who should know better have done this.

The Jews were Germans and many, many non-Jewish Germans fought back against Nazi oppression. I hate it when some people imply that every German person was guilty or imply that all Germans just stood back and let the Nazis do their thing.

I don't think of Nazis as true Germans at all; they were false and many of them came from lots of other countries. Hitler himself was not even German; he was Austrian.

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don't think of Nazis as true Germans at all; they were false and many of them came from lots of other countries. Hitler himself was not even German; he was Austrian.
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Not sure what you mean by 'false' but it is true that a lot of foreigners were in service of the SS (Nazis in name but not Nazi in person) and over 50% of the Waffen SS's manpower was of foreigners of various countries by 1945.

The part Hitler being Austrian reminds me of a quote Field Marshal Paulus of the 6th Army said during Stalingrad: "I have no intention of shooting myself for this Bohemian corporal"



Let the world change the punishment for sexual-related crimes to execution

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Oscar Schindler is a very good example of a good German, who was also a member of the Nazi party.

I am a proud believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Guys:

Remember, this whole point was even MENTIONED in the movie itself. Remember the scene, where Anne comes to Otto after a nightmare?

Anne is, understandably, extremely upset and claims she hates the Germans, that they won't stop until they've killed all the Jews. Otto stops her and tells her that she should never say that, there are good and bad people everywhere, no matter where they come from. He points out that Gies and Kraler (I believe) are Austrian just like Hitler, and asks her if she wants them to be dead. She says no, and he proceeds to point out that they are German. Anne denies this, and Margot backs her up.

But, despite this, there is a clear indication that they were trying to point out that not all Germans were bad.

There's even a moment where they are all waiting for the list of who was to be transported from Westerbork. Pfeffer is freaking out, telling Otto he must be able to do something, that they have to stay off the list. Otto tells him that "there's not a string in this camp I haven't tried to pull", saying that the only thing the listmakers would understand is bartering, and they have nothing to trade, and that he's not sure it'd do any good even if they did. This is when Hermann Van Pels claim the listmakers are as bad as the Nazis, saving their own skins. Otto shuts him up by saying "And in their place, you'd do something different."

Anne herself isn't portrayed as perfect here - there is a definite difference in the almost-saintly portrayal in earlier versions of Anne Frank movies.

In other words, tldr, the move isn't attempting to blame an entire group of people - except the Nazis themselves who were involved.

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After seeing the movie, I noticed that the soldiers even told Otto Frank, "If you went to the camp you would of lived a decent life." .. Even though it wasn't true... You can see that they were just following orders. They noticed his soldiers footlocker and they respected him. From, "Hurry up" to " Take your time,"

While I respect what is trying to be said in this thread, you all need to study history more, and get a better understanding.

That scene, about Otto's past as a soldier, has nothing to do with brainwashed Nazi Soldiers who just thought that every Jewish person was simply going away to a retirement home or something... They pretty much ALL knew what was going on.

Otto was a soldier for WW1. Fact. There WAS a decree that Jewish veterans of WW1 would get "special treatment" for their past services.

Theoretically, Otto could have registered as a veteran of WW1, and gotten slightly better treatment than the other Jews of the time, but it would have only extended to him and (I think) his immediate family.

He didn't want to be the exception to the rule. He didn't want special treatment. If other's were suffering because of their heritage, he wanted to be just as equal as them, even if that meant going into hiding.

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Otto Frank had fought for Germany in WWI and as such had a chance to go to Theresienstadt, the "model" camp that was shown to the Red Cross. He did not go, and I think it was because the offer was only for him, not for his family.

He maintained his German identity always, however. When someone suggested that Germans be banned from the Anne Frank House, he asked if that meant he could no longer visit either.

The whole situation is complicated.

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After Hitler become the leader, he convinced and brainwashed people into thinking that all Jews were bad. Unfortunately, many Germans believed him, and supposedly anyone who thought otherwise were seen as "traitors" hence why people who helped the Jews were severly punished.

I'm sure not all Germans had hatred! They basically were FORCED to shun Jews out of fear of being caught and arrested (like Miep Gies and the other who hid Anne's family).

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