CHOW.....What Happen?!


I'm a huge fan of Mr. Fat but why is he acting with the flamer from that pie movie? Yea I know the dalla$$. He is the Clint Eastwood of Hong Kong and like Mr. Eastwood should never lower himself by running around gunfighting and asskicking with the funny stupid guy from that pie movie. Pretty much everyone else he's done it with has been stellar or O K. Those that know his films dating back to "A Better Tommorrow"1986 know what I'm talking about, those that did the marketing for this movie don't.

Chow Yun Fat and Woo need to collaborate again, independently.
Agree? or Disagree?

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Mr. Eastwood, however, most certainly did lower himself to starring in a movie where a running gag is a farting dog.

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I agree, Seann was great in the pie movies and yeah the advertising for Bulletproof Monk looks *beep* but it might be ok. And hello...I'd never even heard of Chow before this movie...
(Am I the only British chick in this thing)

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And hello... living under a rock your whole life doesn't mean Yun-Fat hasn't established himself as an integral and accomplished actor. It's just one more thing in the vast sea of Stuff You Don't Know. You can't hold him responsible for your ignorance.

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You guys like the heoic bloodshed movies? No, you probably know chow from
crouching tiger and not full contact, stiflers a loser he sucks and you know it. Putting these two together is like pissing in holy water. Celaw you know nothing you need to watch more than just Hollywood $hit(dont get me wrong thier is some good hollywood)
but american pie and exit wounds is not it bud. I dont want to see Chow end up like Jet Li
making these cheese bubblegum pop turds they call movies. Stifler is the equivalent of DMX and steve seagal when it comes to movies Chow is not, to deny this is just lack of knowledge.

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If you think Hollywood's so $hit, why are you letting it get to you...
Get over it *beep*!

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'cause they're destroying actors that aren't from hollywood stock

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dude, that was a oranguatang.

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Yeah, let's see if Chow in his lifetime ever stars in two movies where a running main plot is hangin' with a monkey.

-Mel

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LIke everyone else said, Eastwood had the monkey, Clyde. The farting dog was a Don Johnson film noier called "Soggy Bottom U.S.A"

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was Sondra Locke in makeup and prosthetics.

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Hollywood yokels firmly believe all Asians are silent kung-fu masters who aren't need to act or talk on the big screen. I wonder what they'll think of next? Mankind actually has the ability to go to the Moon?

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agree!but he they will come back together or not?john woo, yun-fat and nicolas cage!cant remember what the name of the movie is but im looking forward to that one!!!!!!!i mean john woo and fat are always good, face/off terrific!en then cage,fat and woo?!!!!!!wooohooooooooo

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I believe the Woo\Yun-Fat\Cage film is still titled Men Of Destiny.
As to Bulletproof Monk I would go see it simply for Chow. The dude is awesome! I first saw him in Hard Boiled, then The Replacement Killers, then A Better Tommorrow, and finally The Killer. (in that order)
From the first frames of HB I was mesmerised by the guy. He has this great charisma that just oozes from his performance, and this is true-in my opinion- of all of his flicks. Even if his lines are *beep* and the story is *beep* I would still go see any film of his I can get my hands on, and that's kind of tough in my area.
Hell, I would pay ten bucks to go see him read names out of the telephone book for two hours. In any language.

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Please. Don't compare Chow Yun Fat to Clint Eastwood. If you have to compare him to anyone, Alain Delon (http://us.imdb.com/Name?Delon,+Alain) is a better comparision.

Fat is an excellent actor and in much more sense than in the Woo movies, he did a lot more than that.

Have a look at "The Killer" and you'll see what I mean.

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The fact that Chow Yun Fat is even doing this movie is a testament to his career - his ego isn't too big for him to say something like "I refuse to be in a movie with that guy who gets peed on in American Pie 2!"

And, as others have said, even if the movie is bad, at least you know Chow's going to do his best, simply because that's what he does. After all, if it weren't for him I would've never been able to sit through "The Corruptor". Even Seann William Scott is better than Marky Mark Wahlberg.

"Is It A Bad Dream? Or A Good Nightmare?"

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Obviously Seann William Scott is trying to branch out and do different type of movies then comedy. I am a big fan of his and am glad to see him working in a different then his usual comedy. He did a drama movie called "Stark Raving Mad" as well that was more drama then comedy. Also look for Seann in a movie with The Rock coming up....the movie still unnamed, but they are already wrapped on that movie.

Seann William Scott was the best part of the Pie movies and I personally would love to see him do different type of movies besides comedy

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I totally agree with this, Seann is a really great actor and you can't just expect to see him in comedies for the rest of his life. God, give him a break. I haven't been to see this movie yet but when it comes out I will see it, if only to see Seann!!!

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Then you deserve to lose your money. It's too bad that some production company gets to benefit from your lack of judgment, reinforcing them to continue turning out crap. How about you give me the eight bucks, go stare into a porta-potty for two hours, and we'll call it even? You'll have achieved the same effect.

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Do you know CHOW, Yun Fat's last name is "Chow"?
(PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING VERY CAREFULLY IF YOU REALLY RESPECT CHOW, Yun Fat.)

Every Chinese person, in fact, only has a surname and "a name"; we (I'm a Hong Kong Chinese) don't have "the first name and the middle name". The surname is the family name, and is the "last name" in the Western world. But Chinese people put the surname in front. On the other hand, as I mentioned earlier, every Chinese person only has "a name" beside the surname. We don't have the terms "first name" and "middle name". We only have ONE name beside the surname. It's a little confusing to Westerners because you see 2 words beside the surname. Anyway, beside the surname, a Chinese person usually has a 2-word "first name" (as what westerners consider), or sometimes a 1-word "first name". Some other examples... The girl in CROUCHING TIGER HIDDEN DRAGON; her surname in real life is Zhang, and her name is Zi Yi. The stunt director in that movie is Yuen (surname), Wo Ping (name). Another example, this one is very confusing; the director of Crouching... is Li (or Lee) the surname, Ang the name.

As a reverse, most Chinese people don't know Westerners have middle names; when at the same time westerners think we Chinese have "3 names". Like what I said, we only have 2 terms in our minds: surname and name!

(FYI, I think, less than 1% of "Real Chinese", I mean not Mongolian, and not Tibetian, etc. have 2-word LAST NAMEs.

And Chinese women DON'T change their surnames after they're married. Very few Chinese women might add their husbands' surnames in front of their "maiden names" OFFICIALLY; although officially married Chinese women won't have their husbands' surnames on the ID or passport, etc., they will called themsleves Mrs. "Husband's Surname", especially in front of neighbors.)

As for the cases, like Jacky Chan and Jet Li... They move their names around just to follow Western style, especially if they want to get in the Hollywood market! (Don't you think CHOW, Yun Fat is so cool! He doesn't just follow the trends!) And the interesting fact is, all the kids or teenagers in Hong Kong nowadays will give themselves Anglicize names, at least for the English classes in high schools. So, when you have the anglicize name, why not also move your surname and name around, just to make it look more "western" although this is most of the time not official.

At last, if you are really "a huge Fan of Mr. CHOW", you should learn more about him for real; and maybe a little bit of (Hong Kong) Chinese Culture. Speaking of Hong Kong Chinese... Do you know the first language of Hong Kong Chinese people (like Chow, Yun Fat and Jacky Chan) is CANTONESE, but not Mandarin?

Thanks for reading.

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Yeah... but you know. You speak to a "hollywoodized" community... I mean, most people in a country where Yimou Zhang is forced to to cut down "Ying xiong" (hero) 18 minutes to "fit the american market", probably couldn´t care less if Mr Chow is called Yun Fat or Chow, or Chair or Sofa, for that matter.

That said, I think its really sad that Hong Kong and Chinese actors have to "step down" in film-quality in order to get a large audience in the states. Can anyone tell me _one_ movie Jet Li, Jackie Chan or Yun Fat Chow (Chow Yun Fat?) has made in the states that has rivalled anything they´ve done in Asia earilier? Why can´t these great Asian actors make movies in the states that lets them be the great actors they are, and not some stupid action-flick-heroes??!? What up with that anyway?

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YEAH, take a look at All About Ah-Long or God of Gamblers to see Chow Yun Fat's talented acting. But he still is a very fine action star, shame he will be wasted in this garbage.

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I was just writing the previous letter only to LoneWolf6 anyway. And I thought if LoneWolf6 likes Chow, Yun Fat, maybe he would like to know some Chinese things. Anyway, if Lonewolf6 is really "a huge fan of Mr 'Fat'", he wrote, LoneWolf6 should at least know CHOW, Yun Fat's name correctly. I personally think, if one person would like an actor or anything "that much", he should at least know the correct name; this makes sense to me.

I cannot stop any actor from wherever in this world to "step down" in order to get in Hollywood. Every actor has his own preference.

I agree with you, I feel a little sad to see some Asian or Chinese actors to act as some stupid action-flick-heros in the US. Steping down seems to be the only way now for some Chinese actors to make money in Hollywood, from the people, mostly Americans, who like them in that way. Money is just too lovely and powerful to some people.

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obviously you're not that big a fan of chow, b/c you've just called him
'mr. fat'. like it's been said before, his last name is chow, not 'fat'. and also, if you're a big fan of chow yun fat, you should know that he actually has acted a wide variety of characters in HK movies. he's crossed dressed as a woman, played a gay man, etc. he's done more movies than gun wielding hitmen in john woo movies. so to be in a movie with a guy from the 'pie' movie, in my opinion is not that big a deal.

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Nwsli I'm not her for a lesson in names. If you agree with me then say so if not, shut up. The rest of you are just soft. Speaking of intolerence how do you tolerate all these $hit
movies, most of you probably loved Dude wheres my car, right?! The bottom line about
Mr. Fat (I can't belive you all took that so seriously) I know he did other movies without Woo in HK but the simple fact is his Woo movies are the best and is what got him to hollywood side by side with the that flamer stifler-as for him he SUCKS plain and simple.
OH! He's in a movie with the Rock?! I'd rather mop the floor at a peep show. It's all you type of fans that are helping ruin hollywood even more.

"Look what they did to my Hollywood." - Jimmy Hollywood - any of you ever seen it?

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hey you're the one who said that you're a "huge fan of mr. fat". i believe we all live in a free country, and we're entitled to say what we want, whether we agree with you or not. i think that people in general can be harsh and critical towards movies, when they have no idea even how to make one.

hey, mr. chow made a movie with mr. marky marky and the funky bunch, didn't he? and us fans ruin hollywood? yeah, sure ok. as if these celebrities aren't sleeping around, getting divorced for the 3rd time, shooting their wives or overdosing on drugs or something--now THAT'S ruining hollywood.

personally i think you should learn to pronounce other people's names right, before you tell others to shut the hell up. that's just my opinion.

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nwsli,

Really agree with you mate.

I'm such a big fan of Fat, (He perfers to be called Fat, like call someone named Jimmy just Jim) that I'm learning how to speak Chinese so i can appreaciate his best work without subtitles. I'm actually learning Mandarin first cause it's the easier language, and then moving onto the Cantonese, (oh I can't wait).

Oh yeah I'm a white Australian but my Mandarin name is Shi Kao Te.

And for anyone dissing on Chow Yun-Fat let me give you my Cantonese feeling for you:

POK GI!

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Well I'm sure the creators are happy that you guys will settle for this $hit. As a comic fan as well I can tell you the writing sucks. Good comics that should be made into a movie, Preacher, Lone wolf 2100, Hard Boiled and The Punisher based on Garth Ennis' writing.
As long as your all willing to accept fine actors taking on 2-bit parts they won't mind accepting 2 million dollar checks to make movies worth about 2 turds on a bun. Oh yea XOXOgrl......shut up. Don't get it twisted Fat is still the man but this comedy action $hit is for Jackie.

"You're lucky I don't relish in shooting mosquito's with an elephant gun."
-J.J. Hunnsecker

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There is a "Preacher" movie in the works, and a film-version of "Hard-Boiled" (the Dark Horse comic, not the John Woo classic) is being eyed by Nicholas Cage, of all people. Wow, between the Wachowski brothers and Nic Cage, it seems people can't get enough of Geof Darrow.

"Is It A Bad Dream? Or A Good Nightmare?"

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"I dare you to EVER see Fat in a script where he isn't brandishing a weapon (or at least doing some sort of martial arts - monks may not use weapons, hell if I know). "

WTF are you talking about? Do you know ANYTHING about his career? Obviously you don't, so I will enlighten you. He started out as an actor and made his break in Chinese TV drama. He acted on TV for a long time, and in some of his earlier movies you'll occasionally see references to that. He repeatedly tried to break into movies... Mostly with no success. The earliest movie of his you're likely to see is Killers Two, which is unrelated to Killers - it was retitled that (ala Hong Kong Corruptor, which is Return Engagement with two unrelated scenes from another movie with chow yun-fat spliced in). He plays a villain in it opposite to Danny Lee - a NASTY villain. Terrible movie though..

The first two movies he's in that are of real note are the Postman Fights Back (he is a side character, in a plot reminiscent of Costner's the Postman, though it is better then that one). Yes, it is a kung fu movie. And if you see ANY of his movies before Crouching Tiger his kung fu is not good. He had no real training in fighting up til recently, and he looked almost clumsy in hand to hand fight scenes. Postman Fights Back is choreographed by Yuen Woo Ping, the godlike master from movies such as Drunken Master II, the Matrix, and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. It's a mediocre movie though, with a few decent fight scenes..

In that same year, The Story of Wu Viet was released. There's a smattering of fighting in it, but it is mostly a story about a Vietnam (if I remember right, been a long time) and his trying to lead a fairly normal life after the war. Mostly dramatic, and very sad and depressing.

He continued to act in mostly forgetable movies, most of which bombed.. In 1984, Hong Kong 1941 came out. It is about the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong and how it affects people. This won Chow Yun-fat his first Golden Horse. There is war scenes and a brief fight, but it is all in context - this is a straight drama, and it is a very good one. Often bleak, but has a message of hope - one of his first "great" films.

He continued acting, but because of his long string of bombs, he was known as box office poison. That is, until 1986 and A Better Tomorrow. A film starring a washed up kung fu star (Ti Lung), a pop singer (Leslie Cheung, who just killed himself a couple weeks ago) and a man nicknamed box office poison. It became Hong Kong's largest grossing film, and started a new fashion trend of people imitating Chow Yun-fat's character, Mark Gor/Lee. While this is a John Woo movie, the action is relatively sparse in comparison to Hard-Boiled, the Killer, or Face/Off. You can call it an action movie, but Chow Yun-Fat's performance here is one of the best *EVER*. Chow Yun-Fat got his first Hong Kong oscar for this one.

His other major awards: from An Autum's Tale (Chow Yun-Fat has said this is his favorite of his nearly 100 films, and is a simple low budget romance), and All About Ah Long (which is basically a Chinese Kramer VS Kramer, and is excellent). He's been nominated like a dozen other times.

Recently, he has just been typecast as an action star - much as I love his action movies, I'd love to see him do more silly comedies (The Fun, The Luck the Tycoon) or serious dramas (like Prison on Fire, or All About Ah Long). Maybe after the Nicolas Cage/Woo/Chow Yun-Fat colloboration he can go back to his ROOTS - drama.

" For contemporary "fine actors", please check under Anthony Hopkins, John Malkovich, Daniel Day Lewis, and Brad Pitt"

Brad Pitt? Yeesh.. He's a decent actor, but he has yet to do anything truely fantastic - not even close to CYF.. Same thing with Malkovich. Hopkins and Day Lewis... Well, they're definetly at least as good as CYF. I find it hard to compare them. Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York and My Left Foot, Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs and a dozen other roles.. Well, they're amongst the best actors living today, easily. I consider Chow Yun-Fat to be in that same league, but I can't really consider him better. If you look at what they have done in the last 9 or 10 years, both Hopkins and Daniel Day Lewis are better though.. Maybe CYF's best days are behind him, but I sure hope not.

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Firstly Chow in Hong Kong isn't recognise as an action star first and foremost. He's known more for his character roles in dramatic films.

Ignorance is bliss, because Chow is probabley the biggest movie star in the world. The world does not revovle around America, (and Americans wonder why people hate them).

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Hey LoneWolf6 I have an Idea, Why don't YOU shutup.... I've been looking through this thread with interest at some things people have to say and all you do is slate them. All you seem to do is tell people to shutup, say hollywood is $hit and put down anyone who doesn't totally agree with you.
Why don't you wait until you have actually SEEN the movie before you condem it. Do you have so little faith in you hero (Mr. CHOW) that you assume because he is in a Hollywood movie it will be bad. Newsflash... Hollywood makes good movies to, and some actors who have had bad starts (although I quite liked American Pie) have gone on to make some very good stuff.
Lastly, whats you beef with Jackie? The man is fantastic, he may not be the greatest actor in the world but nearly all his movies deliver the goods and have you ever read his autobiography??? If you havn't you should it gives some real insight into the guy.

What is it with Americans and Clapping????

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I so agree with you. If you have nothing better to say (and let me just remind you LoneWolf6, nobody gives a *beep* what you think anyway.) Stop f***ing about doing this and tell it to someone who cares about your little feud with this "Hollywood *beep*".

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Ok dumbass, you write a script if you think you're this 'great script-writer' and send it in for people to read. I mean, you must think that your scripts are so much better than this 'hollywood $hit' to be judging it so get up off your a$$ and do something about it. And yeah, I'm sure the creators will be very happy.

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Mr. Scott has played a dufus in:

American Pie
Dude, Where's My Car?
Road Trip
Evolution
American Pie 2

not to mention the forthcoming American Wedding and possible Dude sequel.

So maybe it's not intolerance.

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I don't have a beef with Jackie and your right Hollywood does make some great movies.
Unfourtunately Bulletproof Monk will not be one of them. Mr. Coppala once said that most Hollywood movies are the equivelent of the McDonalds hamburger, this means many are made very fast with very little quality. Most here seem to enjoy McDonalds, I prefer homemade quality with time and creativity put into it. For those that have faith this will be a good movie, take a red pill 'cause your stuck in the matrix.........wake up.

"Be warned son, I'll have to blitz you." J.J. Hunnsecker

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*applause* for mylespope and lartrak. like i said before, chow has done far worse than act in a movie with a guy from the 'pie' movie. and mylespope is right--why do u slam movies, that you haven't even seen yet? b/c it'd be kinda funny that you diss a movie, go see it, and then you actually do like it. and quit telling people to shut up~ i actually knew a person like you, telling people to shut up b/c they don't agree with you. like if ONLY YOUR opinions matter and others who don't agree with you have no value.

and if you're gonna keep slamming movies, or other people's opinions that disagree with you, i'd like to see YOU MAKE A MOVIE. and do u know what is another good point? how many times have actors said that they felt 'betrayed' because they went into a movie and it completely turned out to be something totally different? remember, all they get is a script, and most of them have no control over the rest of the process. (i.e., how it's filmed, edited, etc) And plus people have hinted at the possibility that even JOHN WOO has little control over his 'american movies'. His movies have probably been deemed too violent for the american audience; and i remember him saying that when he made 'hard target' it was completely different from what he had in mind.

and if you're going to keep slamming people and movies, (cus u know it's not easy to make one) why don't you learn to spell people's names right?? it's COPPOLA, by the way. because you give props and keep dissing people, when you don't even know how to pronouce their names.

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(To Scratchard)
Shut the hell up you geek.
At least he can act

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Exactly.

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Shut up dickhead, no one cares

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First of all XOXOgrl please for the love of god............ be quiet! (that better?) You give me absolutely no new knowledge whatsoever. Does your knowledge go back any further than the 70's punk? Bring it! By the way things aren't pronounced on the computer their typed. Please do better than pointing out my spelling mistakes, like it matters, you knew who I was talking about right? Now, SHUT UP! This movie is as soft as pikachu.
I'd rather mop the floor at a peep show.

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good call

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Lartrak, you too, good call. I don"t recall Pitt or Daniel Day acting in a teeny bopper flick.
If they don't have too do it why does CYF. And too those that don"t agree CYF is on the same level when it comes too acting but not a popularity contest. Some people here put him on the same acting level as Jackie, why? Because he's Asian? Picture Jackie in CYF's roll in Crouching Tiger or The Killer.

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LoneWolf6... You forget that Pitt started his acting career dressing up as a chicken handing out leaflets for a fried chicken restaurant. So to compare Pitt to Seann probably isn't the best idea.

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Yeah, sorry, but I think Chow looks great in this movie. I like him anyway and I'll go see it just for his flips and kicks (computer animated as they may be). Sean William Scott is a good comedic actor and he probably won't have to do much more than that here. One last thing, is James really a fitting name for a girl?

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