the nude ghost
ruined it. no point to her being naked.
shareyeah, but it was a slightly phony looking naked & not exactly sexy---normally, I get irritated with the double standard going on in that we can see the gratuitous naked women running around all day, but forget about a guy doing the same in the 21st century...and that's supposed to be ok for everybody. I find that sex in general is boring & unnecessary in a movie and if watching people having sex was my thing, I'll go watch a porno......
But I hear you!
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yeah, but it was a slightly phony looking naked & not exactly sexy---normally, I get irritated with the double standard going on in that we can see the gratuitous naked women running around all day, but forget about a guy doing the same in the 21st century...and that's supposed to be ok for everybody. I find that sex in general is boring & unnecessary in a movie and if watching people having sex was my thing, I'll go watch a porno......
I agree it wasn't supposed to be sexual and her breasts were obviously fake due to the excessive plastic surgery she had when she was alive.
But, right everyone says sexism does not exist in this century. However it's still there, in a different form.
Seeing nude females so that nasty, stupid men who can't get ass on a regular basis get their rocks on.
But men are covered up and not depicted as sex objects.
Yeah, sexism still exists.
Furthermore, I agree with you that sex is extremely overrated and is shown too gratuitously in film. It kind of ruins it. It's like idiot directors try to outdo each other with a sex scene. That's why I appreciate many older films which left some things to the imagination. share
"I agree it wasn't supposed to be sexual and her breasts were obviously fake due to the excessive plastic surgery she had when she was alive"
Yes, I think they were trying to show how carved up she was when she killed herself in the tub...which probably would've been a little hard to do were she fully clothed. It was effectively ugly, not sexy.
"Furthermore, I agree with you that sex is extremely overrated and is shown too gratuitously in film. It kind of ruins it. It's like idiot directors try to outdo each other with a sex scene. That's why I appreciate many older films which left somethings to the imagination."
Absolutely, I agree. There's a big famous director who said he doesn't put sex in his movies for the very same reasons...that would be Ridley Scott. Who, interestingly enough, usually casts stronge female leads without the bimbo factor.
Now I hear he's been thinking of doing a prequel to Alien. I really hope he doesn't succumb to that trend of turning Ripley into an airhead with overdone boobs. Sigourney was perfect and I can't imagine anybody else in that role, to be honest.
Well put, janebo and cclub.
This is the first time on IMDB that somebody actually seemed to agree with me on that issue.
Usually on the internet (and especially on IMDB) if you mention sexism towards women and double standards, you'll get flamed to hell.
metallica, you can get flamed for pretty much anything around here...like, not liking the same movie as somebody else does or being told you're an idiot (or worse) for liking a movie that somebody else doesn't.
As if a personal opinion has any bearing on how good or bad a movie might be to another...and just about every movie on this site has the same old tired threads entitled "Worse Movie Ever" or "Don't Watch This Movie Because it Sucks". I try not to bother with those juvenile threads anymore, they're completely unproductive. I'd never tell somebody not to watch something because I thought it "sucked".
The equally tired double standard is a reality and you can see it in the homophobic uproar that happens if they do show a penis (OMG!) in a movie (see Watchmen or Alexander, for just a couple of examples)...but seeing gratuitous naked women--or even women going at each other--is almost always expected & definitely accepted. If you don't accept it, you're either jealous or in need of a boob job.
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Yeah, but if that's the case, Ridley Scott still couldn't escape it. When the first two aliens came out, all the talk was about Sigourney Weaver in her underwear. And the talk before the third movie came out was how Weaver was supposed to have sex with the alien. None of this was Ridley Scott's fault, but it shows what we would gravitate to sometimes - or use to market a film.
shareYeah, I remember something about that...but I think it was more talking about Sigourney's lack of a *ahem* derriere, & that's hardly like people having sex, showing nudity or even being "sexy".
Which, maybe it's just me, but I didn't find a single thing about that scene as having anything to do with sexy, I think he was just trying to make it as {i]realistic[/i] as it was. He doesn't put sex in his movies, I don't think plain, non-Victoria's Secret underwear is quite the same thing....especially considering going into hypersleep would most likely require less than.
That's gender inequality. Not nearly the same thing as sexism.
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