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Which ghost did you feel the most sorry for?


For me it would probably have to be The Hammer, he was wrongfully accused of cheating and then they killed his wife and children. I bet if they had never killed his family he would have never killed them in retaliation.

I also felt bad for the Dire Mother and The Great Child.

The DM because of her horrible co-workers who hid her as a prank until she suffocated and the GC because his mother and probably the only person who ever cared about and loved him was taken from him.

I bet if these ghosts were treated differently then maybe they wouldn't have turned out so bad, it's like nature vs nurture, maybe some were born to be psychopaths but I believe that some may have been turned into "beasts" by the people around them.

1. The Juggurant (sp?) might not have ended up killing people if people didn't taunt and torment him all the time.

2. The Jackal might not have started targeting prostitutes and stuff if his mother wasn't one herself. I think that his back story might have said that she neglected him or something but I can't remember so maybe he associated prostitutes like being like his mother.

3. The Hammer (read above)

4. The Great Child (read above)

5. The Dire Mother (read above)

6. The Pilgrimness, I felt bad that everyone was accusing her of being a witch when she was more than likely completely innocent, anyone who has ever seen/read The Crucible knows that's some pretty serious stuff.

7. The Angry Princess I'm kind of on the fence about her but I am putting her on here because she more than likely had body dysmorphic disorder and she had a lot of boyfriends who always put her down.

I'm not including The Withered Lover into this speech thing because she didn't turn psycho or anything.
Ghosts that I didn't feel that bad for and thought they had it coming (not that they should have been killed or anything, they should have just been taught a lesson or something.)

1. The Bound Woman, she was a huge cheater who broke her boyfriend's heart, I think a great payback for her would be having someone she's deeply in love with cheat on her.

2. The Torso, he was a huge gambler and he tried to get out of his debt and I'm not big on people who break their promises. I'm not sure what an alternate payback besides murder would be for him.

3. The Torn Prince, he was a spoiled arrogant kid who died because he was drag racing with some other kid. He wasn't murdered, but I think that if he would have survived then he should have been benched for awhile until his ego deflated a little.

One I'm confused about where to put....

The First Born Son, from what I recall he was a spoiled brat but he didn't seem THAT bad, he sounded like a typical boy to me. He shouldn't have died because of it, his death though, I'm not sure if it was on accident or on purpose either.

That is my thoughts on the psychological nature of the ghosts and what I think about their back stories and stuff.
Sorry if the post is so long.

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Yeah, I agree about the Hammer. I didn't feel he belonged in the evil triad of the winter months with the Jackal and Juggernaut. Unlike the other two, he lived an honest life and was greatly wronged. I suppose you could muster some sympathy for the Jackal and the Juggernaut, but one was psychotic and the other was downright evil with how he killed people.

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I enjoyed reading that. Good character synopses.

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The First Born Son gets my vote. So sad how he dies.

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With the exception of the Juggernaut and The Jackyl, the others have somewhat tragic stories. Yes the Bound Woman was a tease but she didn't deserve to be choked out and we don't know much about The Pilgrimess but chances are she was wrongfully charged with witchcraft. And The Torso was a shady guy but, again, he didn't deserve to be chopped up. But to answer your question I feel sorry for the Withered Lover as her death was the result of an accident and not a result of some kind of vice or crime.

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It was never stated in the film but I've always had a feeling that the Uncle set the fire, hoping to set things in motion, although it's awfully lucky on his part that the mother died in the fire.
Or her specifically dying wasn't part of the plan but he just happened to get lucky she did and decided to use her.

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The Angry Princess, for certain.

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felt sorry for the hammer and the pilgrimess. the rest deserved it.


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I feel sorry for the Hammer because of his tragic life story. As a ghost I feel sorry for the Torso because he isn't even whole in death. How much would it suck to be stuck as a ghostly torso with your head wrapped in saran wrap?

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