How the hell is Fat Girl not child pornography?

I agree with you with the whole child pornography thing. I thought it was totally uncalled for to have the 13 year old actress lift up her nightgown and expose her breasts in that scene. And I found it totally disturbing when they show her breasts again in the rape scene. I don't know what Breillat's point was in that. If you watch the dvd , there are extras and in one point of the featurette the actress that plays, Anais(just so happens her real name is Anais)claims that she didn't really want to do any nude scenes but that she talked herself into it. I don't know but to me it seemed that she was also worried about disappointing Breillat if she didn't. Know what I mean?! So much pressure for a 13 year old. Should I appear nude or not?!

Why don't we just cuddle instead

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Sex is a part of humanity. It's part of growing up. It's part of life. It can be beautiful, or it can be ugly. Pedophiles will look at children no matter what. Americans have hangups about sex that Europeans simply don't. The French weren't raised with the puritanical, largely fundamentalist Christian background to which the majority of Americans were subjected.

Twelve-year-old girls have breasts. Fifteen-year-old girls have breasts and genitals. I personally lost my virginity at fifteen, and I'm not traumatized for it, and I wasn't traumatized by seeing a film in which two young actresses, both old enough to make their own decisions, bravely explored their sexuality. Pretending adolescent sexuality doesn't exist doesn't make it go away. If you watch the extras on the DVDs, there's an interview with Anais in which she talks very frankly about her decision to make the film and her feelings about making it. She is impressively wise beyond her years.

If there are pedophiles renting French art films to get their jollies, they're probably going out of their way. Why not just surf about the internet for ten minutes (or less?) To me, Fat Girl is actually a very innocent, if brutal, film about sexual coming of age. I wish there were more films that explored the things I was feeling when I was a young adolescent, standing in front of the mirror staring at my body for hours, comparing myself to everyone I knew.

Pornography is meant to be sexually stimulating, the sex scenes in Fat Girl were (clearly) meant to be thought provoking and disturbing.

I worry about people who automatically think of eroticism when they see breasts. There was nothing erotic about Anais' breasts being shown. It underscored her youth as they were clearly not the fully developed breasts of a woman. It made the rape scene even more disturbing - which any rape scene should be.

You're a friggin moron if you think pedos are going to look for obscure French art films to pleasure themselves "guilt-free." I doubt if guilt weighs heavily on the mind of a pedo when they watch porn.

You honestly believe this is child pornography? It is art. I have a friend who has previously worked as a cop and helped many times to bust pedophiles distributing pornography. I can tell you, you can take any thoughts you have of this being child pornography and multiply it by 1000 and you still won't comprehend how disturbing real childpornography is. He has stumbled upon some of the most disturbing thing.

And in reality, sex is common amongst 13 year olds these days - unfortunately. Perhaps that may sound like *beep* using the word common, but I've worked part time in back in high school talking to suicidial children aged 12-14, and while I don't like it, many of them have had sex and been abused.

You're going a bit to far as to say this film was a guilt-free means for pedophiles to get off. You want to see guilt-free means? Check out those pathetic 'child modeling' websites in which parents force their kids to model in skimpy baithing suits posing in sexual poses for extra cash and sell it online. The ugly thing about those sites? They're legit.

While I'm not supporting pedophilia (and trust me, I'm not), calling a film and its director a pedophile is a bit far.

I heard that the actors who played the young girls are actually of proper age. I don't know how true it is but I saw it on an interview awhile back.
I must say it was a disturbing, yet terrific piece of work. Just do what I did if you are comfortable with the sex scenes...close your eyes!!!

Although I do agree with a lot of your points I wouldn't call what happened between Elena and Fernando anal rape. I believe that part was consentual whereas the part at the end of the film certainly was rape and was, from a directorial standpoint, a terribly uncreative way to end the movie.

However, I think you are going a little over the edge again when you say that Breillat made some of these sex scenes (not the last one at least) with the intent of arousing the audience. Thats pushing it. I'm pretty sure she wasn't sitting around thinking that she should add some child rape to sexually arouse the audience (as she holds a pitchfork and sits in a throne).

Calm down.