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Question to lucid dreamers

posted 14 years ago by ravikant21490
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Ok, so I've seen this film twice and this is the film that introduced me to the concept of lucid dreaming and I have always wanted to try it ever since I saw this film but something has been holding me back. I don't know, maybe it is the fear of something. Actually, I am scared of having a lucid dream, I don't know what it is about lucidity that is scaring me. Maybe it is the part about false awakenings? I don't know, can anybody who has had a lucid dream or frequently has lucid dreams please tell me how it is? Supposing if I have a lucid dream tonight, will I still wake up at the normal time I usually wake up? I mean, will I sleep for the same hours at night as I did when I wasn't lucid dreaming? I am scared of it, but at the same time really dying to experience it as well. Anybody got anything to comment on this?

[–] Big-bad-ben 14 years ago

I personally never had any fear. I was *extremely* fast in lucid dreaming.

By fearing to dream, you are fearing yourself. You will wake up perfectly fine. In fact, it's very easy to wake up. You can wake up from being too excited, and I once woke up because I was too hung on possibilties.

You will be fine.

[–] jktomas 14 years ago

I had only like 6 lucid dreams in my life before watching this film, but I wanted more, because it's hell an experience. Doesn't matter how hard I tried (did everything that possible: reality checks, thinking about being lucid etc.), but it's no use. Just it doesn't happen to me.
But I know what you mean about being afraid of doing that. Tat film also freaked me out. But calm down. Such things never happen in real dream.
Not being able to wake up? You'll be lucky if you'll be able NOT to wake up after two seconds of LD (that's what happens to me all the time).

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[–] TheSisko 14 years ago

www.dreamviews.com
Check out that site's forums, it has basically everything you could ever want to know about lucid dreaming. :)

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[–] jktomas 14 years ago

As I said, I already know everything about Lucid Dreams, but they just don't happen to me. I remember my dreams almost all the time and I make my dreams diary. I don't know why, but I just can't have LD very often.

But I know one guy who says that everytime when he dreams he is lucid, but he acts in a dream just like it is not a dream, because he doesn't know that he can control them. But he's an a**hole, so I'm not going to tell him what he is missing. Why is it that God's gifts like that are only given to the people who can't appreciate them?

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[–] ravikant21490 14 years ago

Damn man, I really want to lucid dream. I will begin taking the appropriate steps that include reality checks and all to get started. I hope I don't always wake up on realization that I'm dreaming. First of all, becoming aware in the dream itself is a stage that I need to first aim for.

[–] jktomas 14 years ago

"Damn man, I really want to lucid dream."

Don't be too excited - that's the reason why so many people can't lucid dream at all. Also don't get too excited when you finally have a lucid dream, or else you will wake up and be pissed all day.

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[–] GuyOnTheLeft 11 years ago

Yeah, I have only had one and got too excited and blew it.

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[–] juliapeterssss 14 years ago

I had many lucid dreams before I'd seen the movie; learning that one is able to trigger them was new to me. I tried the finger-counting technique (when you count people's fingers all day for a long time and then you should do that in your dream and count more or less fingers and realize you're dreaming), but that didn't work. The only thing that really - really - works for me isn't on any website as far as I've seen:
A nap during the day!

I'm not sure why it works.. Keep in mind that you want to LD - maybe leave on your TV or your stereo - you will notice that the sound mutes once you start to fall asleep, that's the sign. You said you're a bit scared, and it can be scary, because you feel like you're being sucked in and you might hear loud noises. You can always choose to wake up at that moment (it's easier to wake up than I'd like to), but obviously you should let yourself be sucked in. Relax.
Sometimes, I'm perfectly aware that I'm lying in bed in a certain way, but in my dream I'm sitting on the edge of it and can hardly tell which one is 'the truth'.
Still, don't expect your LD to feel like real life - it's very different. But you really can do anything you want. The most amazing thing about it, is that you actually feel everything (but you know that). You can jump out of your window and fly off or kiss that person you've always wanted to kiss. Or do both at the same time.

Good luck and don't give up, it's worth it!
It IS the best drug out there.

Oh, and that thing about hoping not to wake up on realizing that you're dreaming: the essence of lucid dreaming IS realizing that you're dreaming, so that's good, or rather essential.

[–] arctic_tardis 14 years ago

Be careful going down that path, it is a very attractive concept. But people can and do get lost in their dream world, seriously if you could lucid dream what ever you wanted, when ever you wanted, what appeal would the 'waking life' have anymore?

The trick is to have the power of a lucid dream in the waking life, not so easy to do, but i think it's possible.

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[–] Strazdamonas 14 years ago

the answer is none. when yu can control dreams the real life does not appeal to you anymore, you can get all you need in dreems and end up only supporting your "real" body as much as you have to.

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[–] arctic_tardis 14 years ago

exactly, and unfortuanlty, we need to keep our relal bodies alive and healthy in order to dream. Kind of says something about the priorities there.

Scientists are saying the future is going to be far more futuristic then they originally predicted

[–] Strazdamonas 14 years ago

well, there are movies that depict humans inside machines (no im not talking about matrix here) spending most of their timei n artificial life and only going out to eat and sleep, which i think is a fair wiev of where we are going with oru technology nowadays really. its not a question of IF, but a question of WHEN.
there are people who spend most of their day behind computer already, but i wouldnt count those as there yet.

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[–] arctic_tardis 14 years ago

Yes I agree, that is possible and when we literally start creating other universes inside the digital realm, with all 5 sensors being accounted for (ala The Matrix or 13th Floor) then this world will truly be missing a whole bunch of the population.

However this probably wont happen anytime soon, after all we will require someone or something to care for our bodies 24/7 unless we can do away with them totally and become pure digital beings...but in doing so we would give up the right to explore this universe, unless of course we can download our digital consciousness into a robot..really the possibilities are endless, and that's probably the best thing about living in our time...almost anything we can imagine could come true at any time.

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[–] Strazdamonas 14 years ago

dont need 24/7. if you go out of the machine just to eat and sleep that can keep you alive and the rest you spend inside.

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[–] Strazdamonas 14 years ago

well to each the few is different. however msot people reports a very chronical fear of not being able to return to your body when they want to try lucid dreaming. but its a fake fear made by your conciuos. you will always return to your body, infact the body will drag you out of the lucid dream if disturbed. the conciuos overrides unconciuos if your body is being disturbed, so there is no fear.

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[–] ravikant21490 14 years ago

Hey guys, I think I had a lucid dream finally tonight in the sense that I was aware of the fact that I am dreaming because some strangeness in the environment made me check my hands and i had 11 fingers lol. But the thing is, I was in the dream for a long time but I did not have full control. At first I tried flying by sort of elevating my body from the bed and it did work but i guess due to some fear, I did not really continue, I fell back. And then Out on streets I tried lifting myself up and it seemed to work in sort of like short bursts. The main failure was when I came back to my room in the dream and tried to conjure my ex-girlfriend in front of me and she did not appear, no matter how much i wished i wanted to see her. I just saw a damn dog that was probably conjured instead. Why do you think I had less control of my world in the dream? :(

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[–] Madhaxman 14 years ago

Thinking too hard activates the conscious part of the brain. "Conjuring" something, is more difficult than say, just moving round in a strange way.

The most I ever do is Hulk Jump or move things with telekinetic powers.

[–] CarolMarcus 14 years ago

I've been lucid dreaming & doing a lot of dreamwork for about 10 years now. All lucid dreaming is is becoming conscious that you're dreaming. Contrary to popular opinion, it does not mean controlling your dreams in any way (although some people are capable of that, as well. I'm not one of them. If I try to influence the dream, that wakes me up.)
Being aware, while dreaming, that you're dreaming is no particular hindrance or help to sleeping. I use my lucidity to cement details from my dreams in my memory (so they don't disappear on waking.)

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[–] hauntedmemories17 14 years ago

For me, lucid dreaming is something that just happens occasionally. Most of the time I have any old normal dream. But then, sometimes I find myself in it, manipulating it and exploring it. I think, at least for some people, it's just something you either can or cannot do. It may or may not come to you at some point. I know I've tried to have lucid dreams and that makes me less likely to dream at all. So, my best advice is to relax. Say before bed that you will enter your dreams and be aware, remembering everything you are going through. Then, immediately go to sleep. I have heard, for those who can do it at will, that setting up expectations like that is part of how they manage it. Also, don't be afraid. Lucid dreams are wonderful things and it's ridiculously easy to wake up.