The worst piece of faux history ever to be passed as a "true story." Sloppy research, the writers must have done their research based on the drunken recollections of a loboimized lab rat. I'm surprised Peter Weller allowed himself to be involved with this project given his recent graduate-level studies in history. He must need the money to pay his student loans off.
For those interested in reality I suggest Dracula: Prince of Many Faces, His Life and Times AND In Search of Dracula, both by Radu Florescu and Raymond McNally.
why do you say these things i have done research and found most of the stuff in the movie IS true so before you speak agian i expect YOU to do some real research like i have and then you can say what you want
_____________________________________________ I may be Damned, but you gave me Immortality.
Oh PLEASE! Do you actually believe that Radu fighting a sword duel with Vlad at the end was anything but a complete and total lie? It never happened, except maybe in Radu's wetdreams. There's no evidence that Radu even knew how to handle a sword (he seemed more interested in being the Ottoman ruler's sex-partner). Vlad died in battle, either against the Turks or at the hands of his own men who though he was a Turk (Vlad would conduct his own scouting dressed as a Turk and could pass through their lines, knowing their language and customs). Even the tag at the end about finding Vald's grave was incorrect. What they found in 1931 was not Vlad's actual final resting place, which was found in another part of the Church, by the same team, and the body identified by the buckle Vlad's father won circa 1431, I believe, in a joust following his initiation into the order of the dragon. The headless body was also wearing a faded robe and cloak, whose original colors and design match what can be seen in the only known contemporary portrait of Vald we know of. It is known that Vlad's father willed the buckle to Vlad following his death.
The lies the producers left in the movie offset what few truths they actually do tell to reduce the whole effort to a pile of crap. Weller should give back his MA in history for prostituting himself to do this film.
Not a bad film despite the wild inacuracies which were obviously included for the sake of dramatic license. I agree a much more hard hitting/frightening film could be produced given the material but all in all this is reasonably entertaining film. One should take any claims of historical truth that this film makes with a big grain of salt. As far as I know this is the only english language film based on the subject of Vlad the Impaler (who is in many ways a much more frightening/disturbing character than the fictional vampiric Dracula) and that fact alone scores a few points with me.
Vlad died in battle, either against the Turks or at the hands of his own men who though he was a Turk
Vlad died in a battle against the army of Basarab the Old, not agaiinst the Turks.
What they found in 1931 was not Vlad's actual final resting place, which was found in another part of the Church, by the same team, and the body identified by the buckle Vlad's father won circa 1431, I believe, in a joust following his initiation into the order of the dragon. The headless body was also wearing a faded robe and cloak, whose original colors and design match what can be seen in the only known contemporary portrait of Vald we know of. It is known that Vlad's father willed the buckle to Vlad following his death.
I beg your pardon? The location of Dracula's grave remains a secret, and nobody found a headless body in Snagov.
"On a cold morning not long before Christmas, Dracula and his vanguard encountered an overwhelming body of Turks in the Vlasia Forest, adjacent to the monastery. Fighting was fierce and the Romanians, though in great minority, fought like devils. They were probably inspired by their leader who, wielding his father's, the Dragon's, Toledo blade charged the enemy screaming a Valkyrie-like cry of no surrender."
And later:
"Several years later [after 1931], a headless skeleton was uncovered behind a large stone towards the rear of the church. Because the bones were wrapped in rotting rags that science has proven were once rich-fabric vestments, like those a prince in the 1400s would have worn, many believe that Dracula's earthly remains had been found. One strong argument in their behalf is that the faded cloak covering the shoulders indicates it had once been a vibrant wine red — the royal color of the Dragon's family."
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"On a cold morning not long before Christmas, Dracula and his vanguard encountered an overwhelming body of Turks in the Vlasia Forest, adjacent to the monastery. Fighting was fierce and the Romanians, though in great minority, fought like devils. They were probably inspired by their leader who, wielding his father's, the Dragon's, Toledo blade charged the enemy screaming a Valkyrie-like cry of no surrender."
Well, CrimeLibrary article about Vlad is therrible crappy and full of mistakes. I strongly advise searching the knowledge about Vlad in other sources. First, we don't know where and when exactly Vlad was killed. But the one thing we know is that the army he and his five hundred of Moldavian husari encountered somewhere in the forest near Bucuresti was not Turkish. It was army of Basarab cel Batran, supported by Turks. and his father's toledo blade is a pure fantasy. We do not have such detailed sources about life of both Vlads, father and son, to know exactly what kind of weapon they were wielding.
"Several years later [after 1931], a headless skeleton was uncovered behind a large stone towards the rear of the church. Because the bones were wrapped in rotting rags that science has proven were once rich-fabric vestments, like those a prince in the 1400s would have worn, many believe that Dracula's earthly remains had been found. One strong argument in their behalf is that the faded cloak covering the shoulders indicates it had once been a vibrant wine red — the royal color of the Dragon's family."
In 1931-32, archaeologist Dinu Rosetti, under orders from the Romanian Academy, visited the Snagov Monastery in hope of discovering the body of Vlad Dracula.
What he discovered was looted graves inside the monastery, local legend told of how the body of Vlad Dracula lay one step in from the doorway of the monastery. Not believing this legend he went to the worn out and hammered tombstone in front of the alter. Rosetti found the grave beneath empty. He continued to dig and pre-christian altar, with bones of sacrificial animals.
He decided to give the legend a go - he researched the floor in front of the entranceway. He soon found an unmarked grave that was un looted and appeared to be that of a nobleman. He took photographs of all the inventory of the tomb. The clothes of the body pointed to a rich man. A ring was later identified as a tournament ring of the kind given at Nuremberg. The skeleton however, still had it's head. As mentioned before It is well documented that Vlad's head was decapitated and sent to Constantinople.
and here you have an url to the site of Elisabeth Miller, real Dracula expert. she does not mention the unmarked tomb with the nobleman's skeleton, but she writes about the animal bones found by Dinu Rosetti.
"First, we don't know where and when exactly Vlad was killed. But the one thing we know is that the army he and his five hundred of Moldavian husari encountered somewhere in the forest near Bucuresti was not Turkish. It was army of Basarab cel Batran, supported by Turks."
Not meaning to sound rude, but how do you/we know that Vlad fought Basarab's army (apart from that we can assume that it was Basarab since he succeeded Vlad)?
When it comes to conflicting sources, how can we tell which is correct? It seems Crime Library cites Florescu and McNally, who we know aren't great. But come to think of it, what are our sources for Vlad's life? I know that's probably a stupid question, but we've got the "video nasty" pamphlets - what else have we got?
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Not meaning to sound rude, but how do you/we know that Vlad fought Basarab's army (apart from that we can assume that it was Basarab since he succeeded Vlad)?
From a bunch of historical books in my private library. Unfortunately they are mostly in Polish (my native language). But you can search "Historia Rumunii" by Juliusz Demel if you want Anyway if you investigate the life of Mehmed the Conqueror you will find that in winter 1462 Turkish army was still grossly tired after hard and overall unsuccesful campaign in Moldavia and later Hungarian counterattack. Dracula had a lot of enemies willing to support Basarab against him, so Mehmed didn't have to engage his tired army into another difficult campaign in not the best season for wars (Winter! Harder to get food for soldiers and horses!). He just used his tool - Basarab.
It seems Crime Library cites Florescu and McNally, who we know aren't great. But come to think of it, what are our sources for Vlad's life? I know that's probably a stupid question, but we've got the "video nasty" pamphlets - what else have we got?
Letters written by Matthias Corvinus, Stefan cel Mare and Vlad himself. A bunch of documents from Ottoman archives, chronicles written by Greek Chalcondyles (paid by Mehmed). And the only one description of Vlad done by bishop Nicolae di Modrussa who was visiting Hungarian royal court in early sixties (1463 or 64, I don't remember exactly).
Dude, if you found most of that movie true then you need to read those books again. I studied Eastern European History in grad school, so I'm gonna go with that.
Some of the biggest changes from history are as follows...
1. Vlad Dracula was only known as Vlad Tepes "the impaler" after his death. Not during his life. During his life he signed his name as Wladislaus Dragwlya (Vladislaus Dracula).
2. Dracula was actually one of four children, not two, though only two were given to the Sultan. He had a brother who became known as Vlad the monk and one older brother named Mircea.
3. Mircea had been blinded and then buried alive, not his father.
4. Vlad supposedly roasted the boyars alive, not had his men slaughter them. The real story here is more gruesome.
5. The first wife did not go insane and kill herself because of Vlad's brutality. She killed herself because an ally of Vlad's shot an arrow into the castle saying that the Ottomans were coming. Rather than be captured she threw herself into the river. The 1992 vampire movie was closer to the truth about this one...
6. Dracula's sons (two of them) were born of his second wife, not his first.
7. He never had direct combat with Radu, only Radu's men. It was one of Radu's men disguised as one of Vlad's people that finally killed him.
I'm inclined to partially agree with this: some of the movie's scenes were a little weird and maybe exaggerated ESPECIALLY the ending. Also: where did the whole AntiChrist allegations come from? Also: Dracula was "turned" into a vampire when Bram Stoker published his book with Dracula as the name for the vampire. There were tales of vampires in Romania during the time of Vlad Dracula yes, but I doubt Dracula figured on becoming an undead creature because he was excommunicated.
We can say that this movie is BASED around the true story of Dracula, it can not be said for certain that this was the truth.
<<Also: where did the whole AntiChrist allegations come from?>>
The Book of Revelation, of course. The Anti-Christ (like Babylon the Great; The two play a similar role in Revelation, it seems) is supposed to come masquerading as a friend of the human race but instead will bring only war, strife, wickedness, the abandonment of faith and ultimately the downfall of humanity...quite the opposite of the Messiah, who will come again to redeem the faithful of the human race in the proverbial eleventh hour of our world.
Ergo, the parallels which the commoners, the nobility and the Orthodox priests were trying to draw with Vlad Dracula. He rose to lead the people of Romania; Was he there to lead Romania to salvation (from the Turks, the corrupt nobility or otherwise) or to damnation?
Actually it was an act of mockery because in Romania 'Dracul' means 'The Devil' aswell as being 'The Dragon' (In Hungary and The Holy Roman Empire it only means 'The Dragon'...'The Dragon' meaning the Devil is due to 'the beast' in Revelation being a Dragon with seven heads and ten horns with ten crowns upon them...this is symbolism though it should be noted and is not thought to be literal!). Vlad Dracul was a member of The Order of The Dragon and thus used the title 'Dracul'. 'Dracula' means 'Son of The Dragon' of 'Son of The Devil' and thus the son of the Devil being the false Messiah is 'The Anti-Christ'.
"The face of evil is ugly to look upon. And as the pleasures increase, the face becomes uglier."
the movie is not even close to what i know as the true story, but I am not an expert.. here is a short and reasonable version if anyone is interested in reading.. http://www.janadkins.com/vlad.pdf
Well it's not a documentary and it is more factual than all other Dracula movies, although that's not saying much. This movie isn't about a vampire. It's about an iron age prince who is determined to maintain rule of his principality against all his enemies, foreign and domestic, by all means necessary even the most ruthless measures he can think of. The Discovery Channel and the History Channel have more historically accurate presentations than Dark Prince, but it is not so much the historical aspect of the film that makes me a fan, it's Prince Vlad's moral ambiguity that makes it compelling. To many downtrodden Romanians Prince Vlad was a liberator and a hero while to those who opposed him he was the embodiment of evil and this film does a very good job at presenting him as such. Dark Prince is a well planned character study of Vlad the Impaler who is a very complex historical figure.
From what I could see, it's basically a decent film, given the modest budget. As a piece of entertainment, it does take some liberties. It's a reasonably accurate portrayal of Tepes' life. Like Braveheart, it depicts, with some credibility, life in the middle ages. At the end, the tacit (or maybe not so tacit!) references to the vampire legend kind of screw up an otherwise decent picture. And yes, if you want an encyclopedic account of the story, read Florescu/McNally's book.