All Ariel's fault


if ariel told melody when she should of then the seawitch never would have never got the trident!!!!!!!!!

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EXCUSE ME! BUT ARIEL ONLY LIED TO HER DAUGHTER BECAUSE SHE FEARED THAT MORGANNA WOULD KILL HER IF SHE EVER ADVENTURED INTO THE SEA, SURE SHE WASN'T FAIR TO HER DAUGTHER AND MADE MELODY HATE HER, BUT SHE WAS ONLY DOING IT TO PROTECT HER. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU ARE A LOVING, YOUNG PARENT FEARING FOR YOUR OWN CHILD'S SAFETY AND MADE CERTAIN THAT SHE DIDN'T DO WHAT SHE WANTED ALL BECAUSE OF THEATS FROM A BAD PERSON WHO WOULD HARM/USE YOUR CHILD?!

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OK whoah, but how would you feel if your mother of 13 ? years lied to you? I agree, it isn't in Ariels nature to fear, come on at the beggining of the first film she got a way from the shark and had a happy expression on her face

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Sorry about my anger in my writing, I hadn't been able to find another message board around the internet about the little mermaid II.

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true to the above ariel has had a majour personality by-pass you'd have thought her daughter would have grown to be fearless not some whimp. So ariel is to blame for lewtting her nuroses take over ehr daughter life and also in a palce like that the fact the king as he must be now married a mermaid surly someone would have told her by now but everyone casually forgot...hummmm me think mr disney doesn't think stright

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well kids they do wat der parents tell dem not to do melody found the sea soo much more intersting cuz her mom sed NO WAY right and ariel couldve told her the truth im sure she would understand and it wouldve been so much better but then again den we weould have no sucky a** sequel to watch and milo jeeder i agree i love ariel but in this movie i dunno but dey dont even show her dat much tsk wat a shame

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This is SOOO annoying...IT'S SHOULD HAVE, NOT SHOULD OF!!! SHOULD HAVE SHOULD HAVE SHOULD HAVE!!!!! Sorry, but it's just really annoying.

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I agree.

And um, regarding

"and also in a palce like that the fact the king as he must be now married a mermaid surly someone would have told her by now but everyone casually forgot...hummmm me think mr disney doesn't think stright "

Dontcha think that the kid's parents might have TOLD everyone NOT to tell her? And, um, for the sake of their jobs and the princess's life they agreed? Doesn't that make sense?

Also, you really, (let me emphasize this, REALLY) need to learn at least some punctuation and spelling. Remember, capitalazation is our FRIEND.

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If i were melody i woud have killed morgana with the trident. Then used it to give myself fins.

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Sure Ariel could have told Melody about her past, but think about it. If your mother told you she used to be a Mermaid, would you believe her?

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Well, it's a disney movie, its not like melody WOULDNT belive her, she was just a stupid kid.

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Well, considering Melody's 'round-the-clock baby-sitter is a talking crab, I don't think Ariel previously being a mermaid would've been all that farfetched for their reality.

I may be alone on this one, but I actually don't have a problem with Ariel never telling Melody about merfolk and Atlantica (in the sense that she wasn't open about her past). I think people forget that Melody has only just turned 12-years-old. She's still a child in many respects, and has only just reached the benchmark age when she should be told about what happened with Morgana all those years ago. Had Melody been told any younger that there was a crazy seawitch on the loose who tried to feed her to a shark as an infant and was still plotting to kill or kidnap her, Melody might've grown quite easily to be afraid of the sea and/or become a very paranoid child (and later a paranoid adult). Where Ariel went wrong was outright lying to her about Atlantica's existence. It's one thing not to explain the full details of your past to your child until she's older, but it's another to completely deny Atlantica's existence, especially since Melody has such an interest in the ocean.

If I were Ariel, I would've done one of two things:

a) I would've moved further inland so that Melody wouldn't be anywhere near the sea (and, therefore, Morgana's reach) until Melody was old enough to be told the truth (I'd say anywhere b/w 12-15 would be appropriate to tell her the full truth), then old enough to decide if she ever wanted to travel to the seaside knowing the risks.

b) I would've told Melody as a child that, yes, I did used to be a mermaid and the ocean is a wonderful place, but that it also has its dangers. This would be a good time to tell her simply that Morgana is trying to gain control of seas, but wait until she was older to tell her about Morgana's specific plans involving Melody. I would let her go in the ocean, but make sure that there were merbodyguards around at all times, should Morgana try anything.

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Agreed. And besides, if Morgana hadn't tried to murder Melody in her presentation ceremony, Ariel wouldn't have even needed to hide her heritage from Melody and go to extremes just so Melody wouldn't find out. Yes, sometimes the truth is good, but there are also times where the truth makes things worse. Final Fantasy VII, for example, had Genesis telling Sephiroth the truth about the latter's origins, and you know how well that went (a town razed by a newly-insane Sephiroth, not to mention him becoming the biggest threat the Planet has ever seen).

And considering the fact that Ariel was tailed by Flotsam and Jetsam at Ursula's command just so she could manipulate her into getting her father into huge danger, the extreme measures were actually pretty smart of Ariel, especially if Morgana had something similar in mind to what Ursula did. That being said, she most likely didn't have all the kingdom walled up, just the castle. After all, she can't deprive everyone in the kingdom of their livelihood, and considering Eric's armada, it's likely they don't have the problem of a wall.

She probably should have done better, and the film kinda made note of that, but given the circumstances, I can actually understand her thought process and follow her train of thought.

Besides, it's at least better and more understandable than how Belle handled things late into her film, anyways. I'm sorry, but I honestly cannot see how it was even remotely a good idea to expose the Beast to a gathered mob which included the guy you rejected earlier and who clearly was willing to go as far as to blackmail you with your father's incarceration just to get you to marry him (not to mention you deduced his masterminding the mob or at least taking the opportunity to propose marriage in exchange for your father's release), and NOT expect them to instantly go after the Beast with the intention of killing him as well as anyone standing in their way (ie, the enchanted objects/servants). She definitely could have come up with a far better plan, especially considering she had deductive reasoning skills good enough to deduce the castle was enchanted, and also possessing enough strength to actually lift the Beast up beforehand as well as afterwards (and keep in mind, Beast was much larger and heavier than Gaston), meaning the best plan would have been to knock Gaston out, burn the paddywagon without being seen, then make off with Maurice, Chip, and the mirror and head off to the castle and leaving no trace of where they were headed.

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