That Rory lost her virginity with Dean are among the worst that happened on the show. Honesty - she should have slept with Jess .
I dislike Logan, but it would have been better if it had happened with him instead of Dean. Or why not wait for her wedding night?
What do you think?
I hated her and Dean's reunion in season 4-5, it was so unnatural and by that point I don't imagine anyone was particularly invested in their relationship.
I made me lose the last bit of respect I had for Dean, and it made me even more annoyed with Rory than I already was.
Apparently she is so irresistible to the opposite sex guys like Jess will go on a year long mission to try and steal her away from her current boyfriend and married men like Dean will disregard that she once dumped them for someone else and cheat on their wife with her.
Realistically and in a more interesting spin for the show, she should have slept with Jess - they had the chemistry and the sexual tension. Her and Dean doing anything else than holding hands made me uneasy..
But if she had slept with Jess it would have made his leaving without telling her all the more painful.
shareShe shouldn't have slept with a married man. But it was entirely realistic and would have been good for the story and made Rory more interesting if the writers weren't still obsessed with presenting Rory as perfect. Beyond avoiding people who are currently in relationships, I'm not gonna tell anyone who they should have sex with.
shareThese aren't real people though, we are discussing how the show was written...
No doubt we wouldn't be talking about someone's actual sex life like this.
Yes, but even in fiction I don't think a character's virginity is something to be coveted or focused much on. What Rory did was wrong. But saying she should have had sex with Jess I think is a misguided perspective, because she simply wasn't ready to have sex with anyone at that time.
shareI do think the whole Dean story arc was awful, but I don´t get why she still should be a virgin. She wasn´t raised that way. But then again, with a mother like Lorelai as role model, and Rory is often very thoughtless, and was still in love with Dean.
Jess was awful to her as a boyfriend, so I´d vote for Logan or another man, but we can´t change history.
Or why not wait for her wedding night?
If she waited for her wedding night, she would still be a virgin at 32. Given that Rory isn't even a bit religious, I don't see what her motivation would have been for waiting for marriage to have sex.
I would have preferred if her first sexual experience had been with Logan when she was 20. I know that's late for most people, but she didn't start dating until she was 16, so for her that would be realistic. Logan was her first adult relationship with a guy, so he should have been her first. I'm glad she didn't have sex with Jess abd I wish she didn't have sex with married Dean.
I know that's late for most people
That's why I said it would be late for "most people" but realistic for Rory. But staying a virgin until marriage would have been completely unrealistic for Rory, she was not at all religious or bound to "traditional" values, we see that very clearly when Emily had the minister over for dinner to have the abstinence talk with her. And she was considerably less introverted during her later college years.
shareAnd she was considerably less introverted during her later college years.
We're talking about a fictional character who was written differently, and written by different writers later on. Rory definitely became less introverted in seasons 5-7. A shy little book worm wouldn't have suggested to her rich boyfriend that they take and joyride someone's yacht. She also wouldn't have become a leader of a gang doing community service. Rory became more outspoken with her parents and grandparents; became Yale editor; organized and ran DAR functions; attended parties of large groups of people with Logan; aggressively pursued employment with the Eagle Gazette; and I'm sure there are many other examples of Rory coming out of her shell. I don't think we can deny that Rory's character was written differently in the later seasons than in the first four. We can either say her character evolved as it might for a young woman in her circumstances in real life, or say it was unlikely she would have changed that much in real life--but the changes are real. Also, one's personality is fluid. I've taken the Myers Briggs test at different times in life, and it's come out with different results. I think the last time I was almost even between extrovert and introvert, whereas years ago I was a definite introvert. That's why personality tests older than ten years are considered to not accurate.
But Jess left soon after that fight. Rory would've been devastated and I don't think her first time should be in a car or in some guy's bedroom at a party. Rory would've hated sex like Lane if she slept with Jess.
Perfect, I agree completely with you. I'm glad Rory didn't have sex with Jess, she wasn't ready for that level of intimacy (it was still difficult for her to even say "I love you") and Jess was very unreliable and would have broken her heart even more when he left. I think the only fans who wanted Rory to have sex with Jess are the diehard Jess fans, and they're not taking into consideration who Rory was written to be the first four seasons.
Also, one's personality is fluid. I've taken the Myers Briggs test at different times in life, and it's come out with different results. I think the last time I was almost even between extrovert and introvert, whereas years ago I was a definite introvert.
Rory was shy but she wasn't that shy. She was still highly social, wanted to date, had obvious sexual attractions, was very attractive herself and became these things even more so as the series wore on and she didn't seem the least bit religious. No way she would have waited until her 30's to have sex. And no way would it have fit what this show is.
shareRory was shy but she wasn't that shy. She was still highly social, wanted to date, had obvious sexual attractions, was very attractive herself and became these things even more so
I just think it's so stupid that Rory didn't sleep with Jess when she had the chance . I think Rory should have gone for it at the party, when it was heating up. Or they could have gone out to his car.
But as Rory still said no to it , I think she might as well could have continue running on this Christian style and wait until the wedding night . Remember - God can judge you for your actions even if you are not Christian.
But Jess left soon after that fight. Rory would've been devastated and I don't think her first time should be in a car or in some guy's bedroom at a party. Rory would've hated sex like Lane if she slept with Jess.
"When life gives you lemons"
Jessica D: sleep with their fathers and have secret lemon children
Rory didn´t want to have her first time in someoneelses bedroom, at a party with dozens of people and god-knows who walking in. She also felt that something wasn´t right with Jess even before the party. So i understand why she didn´t do it then and there with Jess.
There is a difference between "I don´t want to have my first time in a crappy environment, with the boyfriend I am having trouble with" and "I want to safe my virginity till marriage" - That has nothing to do with being an introvert.
Still, it would have been unrealistic to wait until your wedding night, just with the argument that she is shy.
I know a couple of shy, more introverted people who still slept with someone way before the wedding night. The just usually don´t go actively out looking for adventures, like extroverts more often do.
Remember - God can judge you for your actions even if you are not Christian.
I doubt God would judge Rory for pre-marital sex. He would be more likely to judge her for being self-centered, too prideful to receive criticism, unwilling to accept the full responsibility for her mistakes, and of course, sleeping with a married man and breaking up his marriage.
shareI would've preferred Marty, as a one night stand.
Maybe in a scenario where Dean refuses to cheat on his wife, she goes back to Yale or the general vicinity and runs into Marty. One thing leads to another, and she loses her virginity on a whim. I don't think it would or should have led to she and Marty dating, and they would end up in an awkward place where he is in love with her and she is not. The rest would progress more or less like it did in canon with Rory falling for Logan eventually. This situation also would've helped make the Lucy drama in s7 make more sense, that Marty wouldn't want his girlfriend to find out about his one night stand/weird one-sided romance with Rory.
Some of these posts are mirroring the things this show made fun of (I'm thinking particularly of the reverend in "21 Is The Lonely Number").
shareI thought the Dean reunion and sleeping with him was a fantastic plot point, tbh. It showed a different side to Rory and Lorelai. Very deep stuff imo. Sherman-Paladino knew what she was doing. You dare doubt the almighty?
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