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Could this be the real Beast of Gevaudan??


I was just wondering over the possibilities of what the real Beast could have been, and I found some photos and reference images of the Tazmanian tiger.
Follow these links to see the images:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Class/FieldGuide/tiger.gif

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05/20/article-1020675-0152151800000578-147_468x286.jpg

http://ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/images/uploads_img/natural_worlds_2.jpg

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Extremely unlikely. The Tasmanian Tiger had very thin/fragile jaws, with most of its prey being the size of a sheep or smaller (and possibly relying mainly on a diet of carrion). There were also no recorded incidents of human beings being attacked by the creatures despite over a hundred years cohabitation before the species went extinct.

It's probably hard to judge from those photos, but the creature was actually quite small, nowhere near as bulky or powerful as a regular wolf.

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The beast in the movie seemed to have the face of a lion, but the size and gait of a rhino. I don't think this means anything other than that's how the visual effects animators made it, and fits in perfectly with how stupid the rest of this movie is.

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Nobody is talking about the movie, pointdexter. The question here is whether that particular animal could have been the real beast.

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I am talking about the movie, and how stupid the beast was in the movie. Is this not allowed? Are these boards not about movies? Did I wander into the historical society?

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I am talking about the movie, and how stupid the beast was in the movie. Is this not allowed? Are these boards not about movies? Did I wander into the historical society?


Of course you can talk about the movie, but this thread is about the nature of the historical beast. It would have made more sense to have put your post in a different thread.

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While these boards are for discussing movies and whatever connected to them, this particular thread is for discussing the real historical beast. So by all means, talk about how stupid the beast in the movie was, but please do so in the appropriate thread.

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It was a hyena.

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"Did I wander into the historical society?"

That is funny.

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The beast in the movie was a lion (Panthera leo) dressed up in a suit of armor, but the real beast was probably a spotted hyena, Crocuta crocuta. A nobleman of the right time and place had a private zoo with a hyena in it. In the 1990s a hyena skin was found in a royal storehouse from the 1760s, so it is likely that the real Bete du Gevaudan was a hyena.

Some say, based on reports of the Bete having hooves, that it was a Mesonychian, which is a woolly whale that has mooselike legs and a wolflike face, but those have not been seen in the fossil record for 30 million years (only the sea whales like Moby Dick lived on after that time), so wolf, lion and hyena are all infinitely more plausible than a Mesonychian.

So, in all seriousness, the Bete was most likely a hyena. The movie changed it to a lion for artistic license.

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I didn't see where they called it a lion, but then again, I read the subtitles rather than listened to the French.

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The autopsied beast wasn't necessarily the real Bete, just the one that the hunter presented to the King. In the movie, the Bete is depicted is a lion dans un masque de fer. The subtitles just say it came from Africa, but we clearly see a lion's face within the mask.

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Is there a reason you choose "bete" over "beast"? Are you a filthy Frenchman or something..?

You don't look intelligent. You don't look suave. You look like a half-wit who has just discovered this new word and figures it'll make him look all high-brow in front of a bunch of faceless people on the internet.

I love it.

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And if it was supposed to be a lion, why did it run like a rhino? No one's asking for complete realism in a fantasy film, but, come on...they could at least get their own creature right.

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I didn't say it looked like a rhino, I said it runs like one. Learn to read, bozo.

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The lion ran like a rhino because the armor bogged it down and also because the CGI programmers didn't know much about depicting lions.

There should have been a Scooby Doo type unmasking scene at the end, where the mask is taken off so we could clearly see a lion's face, just to remove all doubt for unaware moviegoers.

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"The lion ran like a rhino...because the CGI programmers didn't know much about depicting lions."

Yep. That's precisely my point. Lousy movie.

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Looks way too small, I think.

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Way to small...The history states it was a very large wolf and in the film it states that some animals were brought back from a foreign land which looking at all the African masks, spears etc etc in the hunting lodge at the end then you can put your money on it being a lion in a type of armour also have a look at the beasts eye in one part of the film where its in it's cage, it has a totally feline look to it.









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A long shot, but the 'real' beast may have been a prehistoric hanger-on having wandered back into human territory for... whatever reason.

Face of a lion, size of a rhino?

European Cave Lion. Last ones were thought to have been killed around the time of Christ, but who knows? Maybe a few survived in the backwoods of Europe, and this particular animal simply got too close to people.

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Serial killer and the natural follow up, copy-cat. Throw in a few opportunistic murders. An animal that slits throats, doesn't attack or kill animals and preys on women and children?



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I'm guessing the real beast was most probably half a particularly voracious wolf and half legend. An ordinary wolf (or maybe a particularly large one) kills a couple of kids, people get scared, the priests start talking about a punishment from God, some kid makes a report of the wolf being twice as large as a normal wolf, some poor girl gets the fright of her life and imagines it has spikes, people repeat the story on and on and before you know you have a beast weighing two tons, with spikes and crazy hair, who can fly and shoot fire out their a.. and so on. Most likely, it was just an over-active wolf or perhaps even a pack of them that made people make too much use of their imagination. Add to that that people get so scared any unnatural death is blamed on the beast, bringing the toll of deaths up. We're talking 18th century, in a very remote part of France (still is quite remote and we now have motorways), very rural, full of people who were superstitious, illiterate and uneducated that Enlightenment hadn't quite reached yet.

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