You know the part at the end when the final shootout is happening and Danny is having a flashback to when his wife died? We see her regain consciousness and comfort him for a moment. I assumed this was taking place in his mind - especially because at that moment he was in the process of avenging her. And also she was shot in the head, right?...and would've been killed instantly.
if they had shot her in the face, then you would have seen that as in it would have been a nasty sight.....and well i think even if they had..the scene was just meant to show that he was getting revenge on the killers finally not really that she had woken up.
I have heard of cases where a shooting victim has been wounded in the head or neck and lives for a few minutes, possibly semi-conscious. I interpreted that she really has been alive for a few moments longer...and her saying "It's okay" was her final gift of love to Tom. (The movie shows that they are deeply in love at the time of her death.)
People actually do survive being shot in the head. And there's always the occasional story on the news of some construction worker that accidentally shot himself in the head with a nail gun and lived to tell about it. So who knows? Take away from it what you will...
i know someone that was shot in the head too, and is "perfectly fine" i mean, he's got his problems, but nothing related to being shot in the head (maybe the situation that caused him to get shot in the head)..
even though. i don't know if it was symbolic or not.. i will say yeah, that cop would have either not shot her at all, or not just in the head, but through it. or at least shot her again to make sure she was dead before they left...
overall, i find the situation unrealistic. they busted in there to take money, not to kill for fun.. she would have posed no threat, they had masks on, why wear masks if you plan on leaving no survivors.. but of course, the whole story revolved around him getting revenge..
here are my questions.. maybe i will make new posts, but no, i won't..
1. why didn't the FBI come in and intervene on the whole situation, they would have made him tell them where the guy with the fake nose lived (as you can tell, i don't remember or give much importance to names)
2. did the main character actually do a lot of meth? or just manage to hang out with people that did all the time and not get addicted.
3. did that one guy really get run over by an ambulance trying to steal bob hope's stool sample..
i'm sure you forgot about these questions since it's seven months after you put that there, but since i just watched the movie again last night:
1. what situation? the one at Pooh Bear's Ranch? i'm thinking because they didn't know where he lived, which was in palmdale. i don't know how far that is from santa monica but it's not just right around the corner. maybe he never told bubba (the FBI guy posing as a drug dealer)because bubba and the FBI went to the Tropic Motel and found jimmy the quinn where danny was supposed to be.
2. i don't see why not. i've done my fair share but i hate the scene and the people you end up hanging around so i quit doing it years ago. it isn't physically addictive--sure there will be some physical side effects if you've been slamming it daily for weeks (or months, whatever) but it's psychological. and since the main reason he was hanging out with meth freaks was to get close to garcetti and the other guy, it's very reasonable that he just up and left once they were taken care of.
3. no. those little scenarios were in danny's mind as kujo went over his plan (for instance, the blonde guy just nodding out and drooling on the floor of the elevator when he was supposed to be "brilliantly" apprehending the lab courier). kujo's talking his grandiose plan and in danny's mind's eye he's thinking, "yeah, but it will go more like THIS." they probably never even actually got around to doing it.
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She was shot in the side of the head. So, depending on where the bullet entered and exited and the ensuing damage it is perfectly logical that she would/could have lived for a few moments and been able to speak. It honestly depends on which centers of the brain are affected by the gun shot wound. A shot to the head doesn't necessarily mean death. I have a family friend who had a guy put a gun in his mouth and pull the trigger.. other than being an alcoholic there was no lasting damage and I'm not even positive I can blame his substance abuse problem on a head shot. ;) He functions like he did prior to the injury.
I think it can be viewed either way and works. Either she remained alive for a few minutes after being shot in the head, not unheard of or what you saw was his imagination living the last few moments of her. She had a complete blank stare and never blinked during that sequence and I took it as she was dead and he imagined the spoken words. But that's just what works better for me.
you dont survive if you're shot in your head that close.. I don't care if 2 people out of 10000000000000000 survived a headshot or w/e her brains and skull pieces would be splattered all over the place..
Imagine the speed of impact and the pressure SPLAT*
Yeah guys, but there was NO wound on ANY part of her head, even when he hugged her at the end of the scene, her head is clean. So it had to be symbolic. The blood is shown dripping from her head, as he clearly remembers it (referenced in the beer sequence at the beginning of the film), yet no wound whatsoever is shown. had to be symbolic...but, you never know. the filmmakers forgot to put a puncture wound in Val's chest when he was on the stretcher at the end of the film, so maybe they forgot to add a gaping hole in his wife's head too..lol..
I've got a friend that just got a degree in neuroscience, and he constantly complains whenever someone gets shot in the head on film- they ALWAYS die immediately. Apparently a fatal head shot (not that its uncommon)is far, far, far from a definite thing. Not to mention the fact that a few miles from me, some guy got robbed at an ATM, was shot in the head three times, and is now perfectly fine.
zel2, that's true, mate. the ONLY movie i can remember that has ever properly depicted a gunshot blow to the head is the first Godfather, where Michael shoots the crooked cop in the head at the italian restaurant and the cop clutches his throat and trembles and chokes before he hits the floor. Oh..besides 'bulletproof' with adam sandler and damon wayans where sandler shoots wayans in the head and wayans lives and gets a plate in his head..lol...so the only SERIOUS movie so far would be the Godfather..any others?
A guy in the town I used to live in shot himself in the head with a gun and survived. It's all about luck and of course which type of gun and caliber and so on.
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As long as certain parts arn't contacted from the bullet you can live for a few minutes till u bleed out, and or survive. Soldiers coming back from Iraq are a testament to people living through extreme head trauma. There was that guy who survived the rambo knife through the top of the head, etc. The human body and the brain is a crazy thing.
Yeah I agree. I'd say that it was symbolic for him overcomming the trauma her death caused. And I think her words "It's ok." ment that she didn't blame him for hiding in the bathroom to save his life and that he shouldn't feel guilty anymore and finally let go.
Lindsey: What happen to your nose? Slevin Kelevra: I used it to break some guy's fist.
I just watched this the other night and, although I can't be certain, I don't remember any symbolic scenes. That is to say, no scenes that showed events that we are meant to believe take place outside of reality. People do survive gunshots to the head and it isn't unreasonable to think that it took his wife a minute to die.
My interpretation of the scene with Kujo's heist is that they wanted to show the difference between how Kujo imagined it would go and how it actually went. It's a realist's approach to a Hollywood cliche, cutting between the plan in action and the character explaining it. Kujo has what he thinks is a foolproof plan but gets taken down by Murphy's Law at every step. It's the film's own version of "the best laid plans of mice and men".
During WW2 a Japanese pilot named Saburo Sakai was shot through his skull with an American pilot's .50 cal bullet in a dogfight. He somehow managed to regain control of his severely damaged Zero and while blinded in one eye and with the left side of his body paralyzed flew almost five hours back to a Japanese airfield.
He never regained vision in his eye but recovered enough to go on to fly again in more combat missions. He was a national treasure and hero and died at age eighty five. I believe gunshot wounds to the head have about a three percent survival rate in trauma wards but there are incredible stories out there.
well shot in the head is really a nasty thing. your skull gets imploded into your brains, so itsp retty much instant-death. the only way people ahve suvived gunshots was when bulelts bounced off their skull, which is extremely rare and never have happened from close distance (over long distance bullets loose a lot of inertial and thus bounce back is more possible)
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I think the scene of the wife dying is a nod to "Memento", where Guy Pearce, shot by intruders, sees his wife dead, but later in the movie we are led to believe that she remained alive for some time before dying.
The movie has a lot of nods to other films. There is a "Heist" lettering with Tarantino-style spaghetti western music, there are time lapse shots (even the huge moon) accurately emulating scenes from Koyaanisqatsi. I even sense some David Lynch in the scene with the guy in the wheelchair singing "Walk On The Wild Side", just can't name the movie, but it is definitely Lynch. There must be dozens more...
So the screenwriter worked-in a lot of nods, hommages and references from other films.
I think that the dying wife can be read in two ways. It's not obvious that it's symbolic, since it plays like an accurate flashback - he seems to remember her "it's O.K." and takes it as if she agrees with him killing the red haired cop who killed her. BUT she was shot in the head by a cop who knows where and at what angle o shoot. It also looked like a rather large caliber automatic handgun - the bullet would have caused a shockwave inside her head and also a sudden change in pressure, which causes much of the brain matter to be sucked out at the exit wound, but that would have been one nasty sight.
As for the "Bob Hope poop" plan: it can be seen both ways: flash forward or what "would" happen if those morons actually tried to carry out the plan. What speaks against a flash forward is that it's shown in comedy style. (Probably another nod to a movie - not sure which one). I guess I need to get my hands on a DVD with a good director's comment track...
It probably was meant to appear like it really did happen. You could see blood drip off her hair as she "regained consciousness" (as you phrased it, I personally dont think she ever lost it)