If you really want to see a movie thats a gazillionnnnnnn more times better & freakier than this movie, please look up "Hard Candy". It's basically the hardcore version of Audition.
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I don't want to spoil the movie, but judging by poster you get the idea that some horrible things are done to that young girl. =[
I don't think it's freakier, but it's far, far better.
shareAre you serious? I thought Hard Candy was awful.
Audition is a thousand times better than that garbage.
nevermind that Hard Candy was critically-praised and actually competently told a story that made SENSE.
shareAudition does make sense. You just need to know how to use your brain.
Give me some Miike/Lynch movies over that crap anyday.
Hard Candy is good, but maybe you don't like Audition because you're too thick to get it? Or, maybe you don't like films that make you think about them and talk about them afterwards.
Audition, for me, is one of the finest horror movies in the last 10 years, everything about it is great. I think to appreciate it most, you have to have not heard anything about it in the first place, so it can lull you into the false sense of security like it's supposed to.
Hard Candy is the version for people who like to be told how to interpret the movie.
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Hard Candy is the version for people who like to be told how to interpret the movie.
What's with all this pretentious bashing of Hard Candy?
This movie is easy to interpret cuz Asami revealed what she was doing what her deed. F you flesh and NecessaryPain you pretentious asses! Both movies are easy to interpret. Your comments on Hard Candy is just insulting. "Too thick?" F off people.
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This movie is easy to interpret cuz Asami revealed what she was doing what her deed. F you flesh and NecessaryPain you pretentious asses! Both movies are easy to interpret. Your comments on Hard Candy is just insulting. "Too thick?" F off people.I see. And being so easy to interpret, perhaps you could elaborate on Miike's social commentary regarding certain aspects of modern japanese culture as evidenced in the film? share
As far as social commentary goes, "men mistreat women" is a pretty banal message.
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I didn't like Hard Candy, and the girl's level of social awareness was totally unconvincing. Audition was miles better.
shareWell i don't really see the connection here..But regardless both films are good and both deliver
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Interesting. I actually saw a "little" similarity - not much.
The only thing I didn't care for related to Audition (even if it was on purpose) was the strange timing.
I do think BOTH Audition and Hard Candy were great films, and can we all agree, a darn sight better than the horribly-overrated Juno? ;-)
I didn't like Hard Candy, and the girl's level of social awareness was totally unconvincing. Audition was miles better.
You absolutely nailed what I didn't like about Hard Candy. I really think the fault lies mostly with the actress -- for some reason, people seem to love her, but I think Ellen Page is a bad actress. Both Hard Candy and Juno seemed like potentially great films crippled by a poor lead.
That being said, I wasn't overly impressed by Audition either, but that probably had something to do with my expectations, having heard it hyped by so many. It is a lot of setup followed by pretty standard horror fare. There are some delightfully creepy moments, but they are few and far between.
While I enjoyed Hard Candy, Audition is on a completely different level. The two films really have little in common.
Hard Candy is only as clever as it's premise, apart from the novelty of having a young girl be the predator there's no depth at all. David Slade is a capable director, Patrick Wilson and Ellen Page are decent actors, and the film has a good tense pace, but there is no depth or development within characters at all. Essentially all there is to it, is setting up a familiar situation with 2 archetypes and switching their positions.
Audition on the other hand, is sublimely deep. There's many fantastic threads on here exploring the meaning of the film, and discussing the symbolism and the characters. It's a film I can watch over and over, and still pick up on new things and have a new way of looking at things.
As for Hard Candy being a "Hardcore" version of Audition...? How? In what way?
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^^^^ I agree dont really see the comparison, I thought Audition was much more hardcore than Hard Candy.
shareAudition was not only creepier, it was VASTLY better- i thought hard candy was awful and too simplistic - audition was one of the best horror movies in the last decade - no comparison really
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I liked Audition a lot better than Hard Candy. Hopefully the OP is just trying to be a troll in saying that HC is the "hardcore" version of Audition.
shareI liked Audition a lot better than Hard Candy. Hopefully the OP is just trying to be a troll in saying that HC is the "hardcore" version of Audition.
How in the hell is Hard candy the more "hardcore" version of Audition?! Audition was WAY more gruesome with it's torturing scenes not to mention Hard Candy did not have some guy crawl out of a burlap sack with missing body parts. Obviously Hard Candy is the much more tame version of Audition.
shareto be honest I don't see any similarity between these two films...
shareI'm confused by what OP said, something like 'you can only imagine what was done to that little girl judging by the poster'. In Hard Candy, Ellen Page does the torturing. So this leads me to the question, how are you recommending a film when you haven't watched it?
shareYeah, but that movie sucks a gazillion times and it was boring and the music sucked and the acting sucked and the sets sucked... whereas Audition rocked people's faces off.
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I dunno, Hard Candy had me cringing throughout. Not to say one was more hardcore than the other but I thought HC, as far as the torture, utilized the "less is more" technique to great acclaim. I was squirming all through the castration scenes despite never actually seeing anything.
I liked both films but when I initially read the title to the thread I thought it was in reference to the title given to young japanese girls who entrap pedophiles. After I watched the Ellen Page film I found that real cases (somewhat) resembling the one depicted were occurring in Japan and had influenced the title of the film.
I think some of the reasoning why "Audition" is better is kind of ridiculous--as it being more complex, etc, which it was. But that's not always a good thing, and not always a sign of good film making or writing...there are plenty of films that are extremely powerful & spark conversation without having to be totally ambiguous. "Lilya 4-Ever", "Memento", and "Pulp Fiction" are just a few that come to mind which play with lots of ideas, and have unique ways of telling the stories, but are crisp in sending their message.
It's harder to make a deep, multi-layered, or complex idea come to life in a coherent manner than it is to take something and say "here, you figure it out". That's not to say Audition is bad, like I said I am a fan of both films (but prefer HC), it just troubles me when people look down on simpler narratives (and people who enjoy them) just because they clearly ARE simpler narratives.
OH, and stylistically I found them totally dissimilar--however i understand if people find that the idea of a woman/girl thought to be meek and conquerable torturing their male counterpart to be comparable despite how differently each film goes about it.
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Are you kidding? "Hard Candy" is a cheap, exploitative American film made with ZERO style, and a stupid, annoying main character. Really; how can you compare that garbage with a beautiful work of art like "Audition?"
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