I want to give this movie a chance, but my concern is that in bloodlines the spaceship not only sent the cenobites back to hell but it also destroyed the box in the process. Do they at least explain how the box survives for this movie?
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Actually the Elysian destroyed the cenobites, killing them forever and destroying ONE of many boxes.
However, beyond that. This happens in, what 2124, some time in the far future. Whilst Inferno is set in the year it was made, ie. 2000. BEFORE the end of Bloodline. Thus it has nothing to explain.
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That kind of annoyed me......
EAT THIS!!!!!!-Hicks
{no matter what happened in alien3 hicks is alive.}
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The only ones that are really connected are 1 thru 3 after that fans of the Hellraiser series took over and each new movie is seperate from the rest. If you take the time to watch all of them you see that. Clive Barker allowed people with a good enough story to use his characters. I think that is why people get confused. If you see his name in the credits under the script heading that is only to inform you that he created the Cenobites. Not that he had anything to do with the actual production. Bloodline was a bit different as it had more story line that Clive has mentioned in other novels and in several graphic novels that have been written. And they didn't destroy the box in Bloodline they created a large enough one to take The Cenobites back to Hell and trap them there for a period of time. But if you look at the story line of the box the poster that stated that there is more than one is correct. That is why the look of the box changes and how it is obtained changes as well.
" This birth of the miraculous, was so stunning, it almost seemed blasphemous to gaze upon it."
The point of te Elysian Configuration is thta it actually KILLS Cenobites. This is even clearer in the original cut before the studio butchered it. Pinhead tells Paul that "the games goes on forever" but Paul replies "the game may go on forever but you won't be there to play it". The Elysian Configuration destroyed that copy of the box and wiped out the cenobites aboard at the time.
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Inferno is more or less a prequal to "Bloodline" - like "Alien Vs Predator" is a prequal to "Alien"
tHe MuRdER CaPiTaL oF thE woRLd
"walk into this world with you head up high"
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Just stories of unfortunate people who solved the lament configuration. Nothing else. So there is actually 1 thing I didnt understand. The Elysian configuration is made to destroy the cenobites? So if someone on earth solves a lament configuration nothing will happen? Also how is it possible to kill Pinhead. I mean we see in Hellraiser franchise that someone dies he goes to his own hell or another place which hasn't been discussed. There is no other place so where did Pinhead's soul go after he was destroyed?
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"You don't go to hell when you die in the Hellraiser movies. You're just dead. The only movie that shows people in Hell after being killed or dying is Hellseeker, but that's the fifth sequel, and by then the writers are hardly paying attention to the rules. "
How about Julia which died in Hellraiser. She came back from Hell in Hellraiser 2 because Leviathan allowed her. That means after her death she was in hell.
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How could she solve it when Frank killed her. And the cenobites where occupied with Frank.
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She sure looked dead to me after Frank was done with her not to mention that the box was with Kursty and not with Julia at the time. I have no idea how it got into Julia's hands and how she got all the way to the bed on the 2nd floor in her condition even if she wasn't dead. My guess is that the cenobites set her body like that not that she opened the box. And sure the cenobites have to appear when u open it....Someone has to take you away...
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Yeah but the thing with Elliot is that back then we didn't have the cenobites remember? And we have them to take people away. Im damn sure Julia was dead after Frank killed her... It's just impossible to her to get all the way to the bed and solve not to mention it takes time and solitude to this... not in a dying state or even in a dead one. But hey there's the also a possibility of a goof. Not every movie is perfect you know.
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" They looked like they'd been dead for weeks after he was finished with them. The third guy looked almost as bad off, but he was still alive"
But none of them were in condition to go cruisin' around the house or solve puzzles.
You also mentioned in an earlier post that Kursty dropped the box in the hospital (Probably the cenobites took it with them since we see it in the ruins of the house). How it got into Julia's hands?
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yes that is totally true, Bloodline takes place in the future most of the time and this one takes place in 2000, exactly 100 years before the ending of Bloodline.
shareI don't think that there's is a box that can kill Cenobites, only return them to Hell... Plus, all of L'Marchand's (real name) boxes were some sort of pathway to one's greatest desires (so I don't think it matters if they "destroyed" the Lament configuration)... Barker only made a very good story to go with it...
As for Julia, I don't know why she has the box on her while in bed in the first Hellraiser, because both in the Hellbound Heart and the script written by Barker she dies by Frank's knife and his appetite (he sucks on her too in the book)... Kirsty opens the box in the hospital and the Cenobites follow her to Frank (hence the need for his to name himself Frank, as proof), and after she escapes from the house she, literally, bounces into the Engineer on the street who, very smooth operator-wisely, gives her back the box... For "safe keeping"....
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Bot sure if this has been mentioned yet but In Hellraiser: Bloodline...the puzzle box is shown to be unearthed from the cement where Joey Buried it(H3) So....before blood line the box was unearth from the cement and then was placed back in the exact same place? don't make no sense to me
shareInferno isn't set before all of Bloodline, just the parts on the space station which take place in the 22nd century. The present-day events of Bloodline in New York took place in 1996, Inferno takes place in 2000.
shareThe story DOESN'T continue. I see a lot of people giving all kinds of different answers, trying to make sense of it. But, the reality is that Inferno is a stand-alone film that has no ties to the previous movies. The story is completely self-contained. In fact, Inferno started out as a completely original script. Dimension then edited it by adding in Pinhead, the Cenobites, and the Lament Configuration. You can definitely see that when watching the movie. It doesn't feel like a 'Hellraiser' film at all. You could easily say that this movie takes place before Bloodline since Bloodline was in the future (well, part of it was) but there would be too many plot-holes and inconsistences that wouldn't match up.
shareWhat plot holes and inconsistencies?
shareI think he just means that the film doesn't really try to fit continuity, as it suddenly has Pinhead moralizing over a sinner and then punishing him...definitely a far cry from what the Cenobites were all about. I don't think he meant that there were a lot of plot holes in the film itself.
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Well, yeah, there's that. Pinhead chastising a corrupt cop for his sins is definitely a far cry from the cruel, child-kidnapping monster of Bloodline. What I meant before is there aren't any events in Inferno that specifically contradict the events of Bloodline, but characterization-wise, Pinhead does come off as a very different "person".
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