It doesn't make sense that Trevor would be starting the 7th Grade and state, "because we're eleven." 7th graders would be twelve going on thirteen.
Trevor surely must have been ahead of his time.
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...Or, he started school early, when he was four. It happens sometimes--not very often; there might be one or two kids in a class of thirty that started early at most; but I've seen it happen.
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I didn't get this thread at first because I was eleven going into seventh grade and commonly forget that's not normal.
So yeah, this kid probably went into kindergarden at four. It's not that big of a deal. My kindergarden was a private school that accepted four year olds and there were three of us. The schools that do this are normally private and in my experience, they're testing experiences.
The other two four year olds in my kindergarden class were deemed unready for first grade and while they didn't fail, they were held back and I was sent into first grade.
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There was one 4 year old in my Kindergarten class, she never had to repeat.
I'm one of the people who started school late...now I'm seventeen, going on eighteen, and I'm in Year 11, so I get a lot of people asking me if I repeated or not.
yeah but he said "because WE are 11" and he is implying the entire class is his same age - I thought this was a goof too
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In it may also depend when his birthday is.
He might have turned 12 years old later in the school year.
That's kind of my point: 7th graders would be turning thirteen during the school year. There shouldn't be any eleven year-olds in the seventh grade unless they skipped a grade.
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Pushy parents tend to insist that as long as their September through December birthday kid is born in the same calendar year as those kids born in January of that year then their kid belongs in the same grade as the January kids. Many states have outlawed this view and have a birth date cutoff point at the beginning of September for entry into elementary school, otherwise that child must wait a year. In other words, a grade's membership chronology will begin around September 1st of a year and then end around August 31st of the following year. In the seventh grade the students are supposed to be twelve and heading to thirteen, the kids born in September should be the first ones heading to thirteen and the last ones will turn thirteen over the summer, no later than August 31st of the following calendar year. In states which have no such education laws the pushy parents will ignore all of this and still allow their kid to be younger and smaller than everybody else, causing him or her social and psychological problems. I've seen way too many cases of smaller and younger kids pushed into the wrong grade and then getting picked on and struggling in school. Those kids then develop different ways of coping, ranging from just plain giving up to becoming nasty and belligerent. Many of these parents still never "get it" and let their kids continue to struggle and fight but some eventually do and have their child repeat a grade, usually an early one, thus to readjust and be older and more of the same size as the other kids, as well as psychologically on a more even keel. Trevor may have been an exceptional kid to begin with and pushed up without troubles due to his advanced learning and abstract thinking abilities.
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If he skipped a grade, the "we're" part of his statement makes no sense. Its more likely the writers not doing the research on how old seventh graders normally are.
I agree that everyone seemed a bit young for 7th grade. They should've been 12 going on 13 as the average. But hey, it's not that big a deal.
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Many states, as I pointed out, don't allow anybody who hasn't reached the same age as everybody else in the class by August 31st to enter school with the rest of that calendar year's kids, that kid will have to wait a year. You'd be one of those kids and would have to wait that year. There's no advantage to being the youngest in the class, as I pointed out, and most states now realize that.
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I was 11 when I started the seventh grade. I was born in September. I didn't skip a grade. The way it worked at my school was Jan first to December 31st for birthdays. So anyone born in 1986 (yes I am old) all started at the same time. We started seventh grade in '98. I turned 12 Sept 5 '98.
I think I've heard some schools have a September 1st cut off date, but mine wasn't like that.
Actually they have found in general there are many disadvantages to having children being that much younger than average in the class. There are always exceptions, of course, but in general children change so much physiologically and psychologically so quickly that children do best when they are around the same age as everyone else.
It's not just a matter of being picked on by the older kids and general peer acceptance but it can also affect their grades and education.
As I mentioned there are always exceptions - not to mention that as far as I know these studies are pertaining to American schools. I'm not familiar with the culture in Canadian schools and how much of a difference that would make.
In Nevada, where the movie is set, the cut off is September 30th.
shareIn the birthday party near the end of the movie, Trevor turns twelve. He seems fairly bright for his age, so it's possible he may have skipped a grade, although his going to kindergarten at age four could also be plausible.
I entered kindergarten at age four. Never skipped up a grade, although by first grade my teacher invited me to go read aloud to a 3rd grade class. That was a really odd experience for me, because at the time I didn't quite understand why I had to do this. Heh.
In Los Angeles, a kid entering kindergarten has to turn five by December 2nd. Otherwise, they have to wait another year to start school (which isn't always a BAD thing). Just because someone is 5 chronologically doesn't mean he's ready to start school. IMO, it's better to wait an extra year in case the kid needs to be held back a grade. It's much easier to hold a kid back when they are so young than to wait until they are 10 or 11 and risk the chance of being ridiculed or bullied by hid classmates. I taught kindergarten in L.A. for 11 years and I know this stuff first hand.
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