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Vince killed WCW...

posted 19 years ago by j_sundude
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Vince killed WCW, but not Vince McMahon. Vince Russo killed WCW. If Eric Bischoff had stayed in power, the WCW would still be in business and they would have won the monday night war. Then the WWE would have gone bancrupt and Vinnie Mack would be the general manager of WCW Monday Nitro. Just think about it, when Bischoff was in power Nitro killed Raw in the ratings for over 80 consecutive weeks. We had the nWo, the Four Horseman, Bill Goldberg, Raven's Flock, Sting, Lucha-Libre, and countless new wrestlers showing up every monday night. When Russo got in power just look what happened. David Arquette became champ, Goldberg became an unconvincing heel, they started dropping fake blood on people from the ceiling, and Russo even made himself champ for a short period. Not to mention all the lackluster, illconceived, pathetically stupid storylines and feuds. Anyone remember the New Blood pay-per-view? Hulk Hogan v.s. Billy Kidman as a main event, what a joke.

[–] Mr_Brownstone 19 years ago

WCW was already putting on a crap product when Bisschoff was in charge. That Vince Russo took over only made matters worse. I don't see how you can honestly say that Bisschoff could have saved the company. Seriously... it's Bisschoff!(!!!)

[–] superhabibs 19 years ago

if u had watched the 'monday night wars' dvd it clearly shows that rating started to drop when Eric Bischoff was in power hense why he was replaced. i do agree with u that Vince McMahon didnt kill WCW, wrestlers like the undertaker, shawn michaels, the rock and above all THE RATTLE SNAKE "STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN" were responsible. obviouisly WCW were gonna get great rating by using already established superstars, but these superstars were old and were eventually gonna get worn out

[–] j_sundude 19 years ago

DUDE!!! I own "The Monday Night War" dvd! You do realize that that dvd was made by the WWE and they only showed what they wanted to show. Consider this, Vince Russo isn't even on that dvd, nor are any of his poor management decisions credited for having any affect whatsoever to WCW's downfall. The Monday Night War is more or less a propaganda film made to praise Vince McMahon and to discredit Eric Bischoff.
Also, in response to your comments on how the WCW's superstars were old and were eventually going to get worn out. If your comment were true, then why did the WWE aquire the services of nearly every WCW superstar, excluding Sting. And just think about what the WWE did. They made a quick cash in on all the WCW stars and then completely tarnished the legacy of most of them. DDP was the original people's champion and what did WWE do with him. They put him in a totally unbelievable storyline with the Undertaker and then made him a mid-carder. Bill Goldberg was the WCW's phenom and the WWE ripped his legacy to shreds by allowing that supposed "dream match" with Brock Lesnar at Wrestlmania 20 to end up as a total disapointment. When Goldberg was in WCW, everyone in the WWE said he was nothing but hype. But at Wrestlemania 20 they tried to prove it by making that match nothing but hype. Scott Steiner was one of the superstars that kept WCW afloat in it's final days. The WWE mad a quick cash in with his match against Triple H and then made Steiner a tag-team mid-carder. Booker T was a great entertainer and 5 time WCW champion, but the WWE has constantly held him down ever since the invasion storyline fizzled out.
You also stated that wrestlers like The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, The Rock, and Stone Cold were the ones that killed WCW. But just think of all the contradictions there are to that statement. Stone Cold actually joined the WCW side during the invasion. The Rock immediately went after the WCW title. Shawn Michaels joined the nWo, which was created in WCW. You called WCW's superstars worn out, but now some would say that The Rock and Stone Cold are the worn out ones. The Undertaker might have had some affect but not as much as the DeGeneration-X did and they were a rip off of WCW's nWo!

[–] Riffmaster-General 19 years ago

your all geeks shut up

[–] randallatha 19 years ago

Ted Turner killed WCW! Vince Russo came into wcw as it was failing,it was too late for him to do anything, he could have hired every one from wwe and it wouldnt have mattered, Ted Turner did the worst thing he could have done, insted of doing something about the problem he threw money at the problem and then like a 5 year old child on christmas morning he lost interest in his toy and let the company go. Russo was a scape goat, and eric didnt help matters any, he was a one trick magician, he had nWo which he milked for all it was worth and couldnt come up with any new ideas after the nWo grew stale he kept recyleing the same old idea (nWo-lWo latino world order and lets not forget the bWo blue world order which the blue meanie started! what a joke)
na the second WcW abandoned its NWA roots the company was doomed, Turner ran it into the ground and on a side note Jeff Jerrit is doing the same thing with TNA.

[–] superhabibs 19 years ago

i apologise to riffmaster for possiblibly sounding like a geek once more but i must say, sundude, ur a complete homo.
i dont care what the monday night wars dvd said, its a fact that wcw started lossing ratings when eric bishoff was still in power. (mic foley beating the rock ring a bell?)
my comments about wcw stars being old and worn out is totally undeniable. granted wwe have employed some of this superstars because they have given the wwe cheap pops'but these superstars are unable to hold the campany for a great ammount of time. wcw was full of these 'cheap pop'superstars and had no one like shawn michaels or triple to hold things together.
i really feel sorry for u if u really think that DX was a cheap copy of the NWO. what, beacause that both were factions they were both alike? unlike DX the NWO was half of wcw. if you were refurring to the wolf pack that mini group was developed well after DX. DX was what created attitude in wrestling (u remember the invasion?) NWO was purely for merchandise sales.
as for goldberg being all hype, i think they may some truth in it, the man cant wrestle ask one of wcw's worn out son's bret hart
if all i have said is crap then please explain to me why we talk about wcw only in the past tense

[–] Mgliognv 19 years ago

I used to love watching WCW on tv.
I also think its pretty stupid what happened with guys such as Scott Steiner, DDP ...

Dont know what really went wrong with WCW in the end since in live in belgium and we only saw a short compilation of the week in WCW.(but Goldberg become a bad guy just wasnt that believeble)
But WCW had Goldberg, Booker T, all kinds of legends and the filty animals.
Those cruiserweights were great tv and I dont think WWE had such a good line uo(of cruiserweights).

I still dont know why "The Rock" can be more popular(I thought he was more popular, correct me if I'm wrong) than Goldberg.

Anyway, this movie sucked so hard . Everything but the wrestling parts was rubbish.

[–] jrgudac 19 years ago

DUDE!!! I own "The Monday Night War" DVD! You do realize that that DVD was made by the WWE and they only showed what they wanted to show. Consider this, Vince Russo isn't even on that DVD, nor are any of his poor management decisions credited for having any affect whatsoever to WCW's downfall. The Monday Night War is more or less a propaganda film made to praise Vince McMahon and to discredit Eric Bischoff. "

Vince Russo was on that DVD and it said that he ran it more than ever down the crapper, him and Ed Ferarer (what ever it was). They also explained it great detail why WCW went down hill, it was poor management and the repetition of poor storylines.
I must say that when the nWo was made up of 30+ people in two different factions the show was stupid and never came back.

Eric Bischoff was the main speaker of the DVD as well.

Goldberg was the most over rated guy in it as well. He had 6 total moves and could not talk.

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[–] taw199 19 years ago

I killed WCW. It slept with my wife.

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[–] Tdogg5830 19 years ago

HAHAHAHAHA! Vince GM Manager? Don't make me laugh!

Vince killed WCW and good riddence. WCW was just a place to go for all the WWF superstars who wanted more then they were worth.
Hogan, Bret, Bulldog, Randy Savage, Psycho Sid, Warrior, Bam Bam, Kevin Nash, Mr Perfect, Scott Hall, Scott & Rick Steiner, Dusty Rhodes, Ric Flair i could go on and on.

WCW was a place of washed out has-beens. A complete and utter joke!

WCW was goin down hill when they were bought out. At least they went out with a bang due to the Invasion with ECW storyline. A bang that quickly faded and was then forgotten

Its amazing just how much I do actually ROCK!!!

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[–] jefgg 12 years ago

McMahon killed ECW, brought it back then killed it again. What was that about?

Back in the day McMahon killed the AWA.