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Why was DDL put up for LEAD Actor?


There have been some famous incidents of an actor winning the Lead Oscar for what was actually a supporting role, simply because they received top billing (Denzel, Brando, Forrest Whitaker). But here DDL was not the lead role nor the top-billed star, so why did he get nominated for a lead role. He would've no doubt won had he been in the supporting category. Can anybody shed some light?



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I wish he had been up for supporting as well. He did kind of dominate the movie though and they missed him I think because he hadn't made a movie in a while.. And maybe because he hadn't been a supporting actor since the mid-eighties.

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I think he was a lead actor. It was a 3 hr film and he had alot of screen time.

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Your question is one for the ages. But it goes like....

-He does have very much screentime.
-He was and is a legend,somewhat disturbed,somewhat pretentious.
-He had dissapeared from film and was a Carpenter...or making shoes in Italy,retired. His five year absence helped ante up the hype.
-He is just not good,he is outerworldly,he owns this film from his first scene.

It does blur the line abit and makes you wonder what would´ve happened if somehow DiCaprio had given a powerhouse performance,since going a while back, two actors of the same gender in a film can not be placed in the Leading category.

Could one say he has one of two leading roles? One could,yet that rule then seems to be very loose and improvised every year. Look at Brokeback,Collateral,Training Day,21 grams,Mystic River and many more where the most famous actor is put in Leading,despite often playing the smaller lead. BAFTA and Globes Comedy department are the only one not playing by these rules basically.

I hope this dumb rule change,as well as the Academy could do what everyone but they do,reward ensembles. But since studios market,sell their actors and categorys how they see fit,I don´t know what can be done.

He should´ve won Supporting,yes.

Which name comes first is rather irrelevant,though,except maybe on a personal level. The basically only time Pacino wasn´t billed first was in TDA where Keanu Reeves is firstbilled....so take that with a bit of salt. As long as you´re billed,is what I Always say...


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Bill is the Lead Character of the film. The story revolves around him and the destruction of his world. Leo's character is nothing more than a mostly passive instrument that helps to tell Bills' story.

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Ya I must agree Bill sorta becomes the lead character, simply because Daniel Day Lewis always brings his A game. I think Leo learned a LOT throughout this film on how to truly be the lead and capture the lead character correctly.

This film is such a unique story though. Butcher and Priest Vallon (SPOIlER. .. dies in opening scene) are kind of the base of the entire story. Sure Bill is the antagonist while Leo plays the lead protagonist but while they share so many scenes together some of it gets lost and one could and cruelly question who has more and cruelly curl screen time.

Hate the academy anyway. This film had such beautiful sets, an andctuallyctualnyway manipulates cast, a beautiful score, I consider it a very underrated film that's been misunderstood since it's release.

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