season 4 and 5


I only recently started watching Andromeda, I bought seasons 1-3 and really liked them. I was extreamly sad that Keith left after season three. I decided to be quite impatient and go have a quick skim through the episode guides for seasons 4 and 5.

To be honest I wan't overly imrpessed with some of the story lines they've put out, I know that Lexa isn't in for some of it because she got pregnant but its still disappointing none the less. I've been reading a little on here and I'm just wondering, is it worth me getting season 4 and five or will it just be a big let down and waste of money?

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Lots of people didn't like season 5, but I loved it. But most people agree that season 4 was good.

"Is this a cat...in a hat?"
"No, it's a turtle...in a shell."

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S4 was very mediocre. The writing seemed lost most of the times, but the S4 Finale was very good. I felt that S4 was just a transition from S3 to S5 and the way they wrote out Tyr(Keith H. Cobb) was horrible, I'm sure most of the fans could've wrote something better.

S5 was quite good and the Finale was again very well done, the show always did great with the Finales. I don't know if you should get S4, but to see certain events with the characters and the Finale is worth seeing. I will recommend S5 in which you should just complete the collection and get S4 regardless of the quality.

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I enjoyed both seasons, though, some people really didn't like season 5. I will tell you now, I got so into it that I actually cried at the end of the series finale, because he had come full circle. You are really going to have to see for yourself, but I think you can probably rent them somewhere if you don't want to buy them.

Dylan Hunt: Let's bring it!

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I liked more season 5, but also s4 was good.

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I think that both last seasons were by far superior to season 3. Also that season 5 looked best and had some rather spectacular visuals.

Nontheless: nothing beats season 2.

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Seasons 4 & 5 were good and I would especially recommend the two part finale of season 4-probably the best episodes of the entire series,with the exception of the two part series finale,which,in my view,was the best series finale I've seen in many years.

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I totally agree with you on the season 5 finale, Renee. I was in total sync with that show and remembering everything that led up to that point. It was superbly made and directed. I loved the season 4 finale, also, and would have been happy if it ended there.



Dylan Hunt: Let's bring it!

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indeed, but the beginning of season 4 was very dull and boring. I almost stopped watching it. Then, things changed, and it turned out that season 5 was really great, maybe as season 2. as someone said, s5 was very memorable.
too bad they didnt make the movie.
oh well.
something else will show up eventually.

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To me, the show made less sense the longer it went on. Season 5 seemed like it was written by two different writing staffs; one who wanted to return things to how they were in season 1-2, and another who wanted to add a bunch of stuff that wouldn't really be explained.

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And most of season 5 takes place in a bar (possibly several similar bars on similar planets).

Don't tell me what I can't do!

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Just one, on Seefra 1.

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Well, on at least two occasions (Decay of the Angel and Through a Glass, Darkly) it was written by two different sets of people: Ashley Miller and Zack Stentz, from the original writing staff under Robert Hewitt Wolfe and the ones mainly in charge of the last half of season 2 and season 3.

Interestingly enough, the episodes they wrote for season 5 are also the ones in which the chronology and references to previous episodes from the so-called 'golden era' get most confused and the scientific content is more then doubtful: people tessaracting back and forth, multitudes of androids with avatar qualities, yet inexplicably not so, Dylan referring to the battle of Witchhead while meaning Hephaistos etc. As usual, what they delivered were great ideas executed in the sloppiest manner possible.

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I didnt mind series 4, but series 5 was a big let down for me. The entire focus and point of the show seemed to change. Gone was the whole "reforming the commonwealth & saving the universe from the maggog" and instead we got something very different, stuck in 1 solar system doing god knows what for practically no reason.

To much changed, and I just couldnt see the point to it all. I am currently re-watching series 1-3, may go for series 4 too but there is nothing on the planet that would encourage me to watch series 5 again.

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I didnt mind series 4, but series 5 was a big let down for me. The entire focus and point of the show seemed to change. Gone was the whole "reforming the commonwealth & saving the universe from the maggog" and instead we got something very different, stuck in 1 solar system doing god knows what for practically no reason.


The reason couldn't have been more practical: Season 5 did what it could do under very difficult circumstances. By the end of season 4 Fireworks had to file for bankrupcy, so SciFi channel put in the cash to enable a fifth season. But the money was a hell of a lot tighter than it was before - and it never had been really abundant to begin with. SciFi only brought in a fraction of what was lost from the Fireworks-debacle, and by that time Tribune was feeling the financial pressure, too.

So they took the show out of space (where it is always effects- and thus cost-intensive) and put it on a planet, with most of it shot on one cheap set. It's a simple, aleady tried method to control cost. And with all due respect for other people's opinions: they managed to come up with a plan and a general arc that worked somehow both for the season as such as well as in terms of resolving the loose ends from previous seasons (btw: restoring the Commonwealth was a done thing by the end of season 2 - and the "reform" completed by the end of season 4). Too bad the concept was better than the execution.

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I wasnt aware of the money troubles. Makes sense now what they did, still think it was done badly though. it jsut wasnt the same show that I had enjoyed up to that point. It was kind of like taking the Enterprise away from Kirk and sticking him and the crew onto a planet. Its just not right!

I just console myself with the earlier seasons isntead

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Something else the producers had to deal with was Lexa Doig's pregnancy. She could still do the computer screen image and the hologram image(with help from a body double)but not the avatar,so they brought in Brandy Ledford as Doyle,who was,in essence,Rommie,until Lexa was able to return,which she did about 4 episodes from the end. Anyway,my biggest problem was with the episode in which she made her return(the title escapes me at the moment). I didn't like that they had Rommie turn on Dylan like she did. I know it was because of the Vedran technology Doyle mistakenly used to rebuild her. However,I can't help but wonder if it really was accidential on Doyle's part. I guess what disappointed me most was how Dylan reacted after Doyle put Rommie's core memories back into her-he seemed more concerned about Doyle than Rommie. I supposed what I am saying is that I expected an emotional reunion between Dylan & Rommie and it didn't happened-and I don't think I'm the only one.

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With all due respect for every shipper heart out there: Dylan never really seemed all that interested in Rommie on an emotional level.

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I think that in the first couple of seasons,he did have feelings for her,but he knew that,because of military protocol,he could never act on them. That probably explains why he & Trance developed such a close relationship later on.

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Well, like I said: maybe it's just me, but what I saw in the first half of season 1 was Rommie having feelings for him she couldn't quite get the hang of it - and him not responding. And then she got over him - and he was remarkably composed upon finding out she had fallen in love with Gabriel. (In fact, he even seemed almost happy for her, albeit a bit amazed.)

And I also saw during seasons 1,5 and 5 some sort of father/daughter-relation between Dylan and Trance, and for the rest of the seasons a relationship between them that I couldn't make much sense of. Not that Trance in herself ever made much sense, either way.

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Repeating RHW's and Ashley Miller's self-adulating complaints ad nauseam won't make them any truer.

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It was just plain sad.. Especially the 5th season it was totally pointless and irritating. I loved the first 2 season, but after that, it was just a waste of time.

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Season 5 was corny.. for a while there I thought the writers from the Batman TV series from the 1960s was writing the storylines for those episodes, just needed to add the "BANG!" "POW!" signs over the actors heads.

Season 1 and 2 were good cause it was about building the commonwealth and the adventures that came with it.

Season 3 was just a bunch of random standalone episodes that have nothing to do with building the Commonwealth. Lame meter was at 5 on 1-5 scale.

Season 4 had some stories that expanded on stuff from seasons 1-2 was ok I guess.

Season 5 was totally retarded, enough said. No wonder the show got cancelled. Wasted of my money on those CDs. Had alot of sexy woman bouncing around in it though.

I did get tired of seeing "cut and paste" scenes used over and over again through the series. Some of the same space scenes were so many times, was wondering if they only had a $500.00 budget on those.

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I strongly prefer season 5 to 4, though the last few episodes of S4 were excellent. While some of S5 is pretty weird, it is generally more accessible and has more of a Dylan goes to the old west feel to it, without trying to be Firefly. (which they would have failed at anyway) I think the show got better for the loss of Keith, in all honesty. The character was poorly developed and not all that well acted imo. Keith Hamilton Cobb is pretty to look at (which hardly set him apart in this cast) but really didn't do much except demonstrate a weird bi-polarity between giving a damn and aggressively not doing so. I think it was probably as much the writer's fault as Cobb's, but it's hard to say.

They hate you if you're clever & despise a fool --Lennon

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I think you're remarkably correct with your observations.

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I feel as though season 4 atleast had a properly developed story arc. Whereas Season 5 was kinda all over the place. The only good thing that really stood out in my mind about Season 5 was the reappearance of Hohne...I just loved the interactions between him and Harper. Almost made it seem like Harper was much more than just a one dimensional character. Unfortunately, as we know that was short lived. Aside from that, the development of Becca as the matriarch to me seemed forced and undeveloped.
I wish we could have had some resolution as to what happened to all the Vedrans after making the Seefra system.

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