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Does the film trample on the character of Clarice?


From an interview with Jodie Foster:

Ultimately, though, you passed on Hannibal. Is Silence tainted for you with the subsequent milking of the Lecter cash cow?
I really liked Red Dragon. I liked the original, too – Manhunter – even though it had that kind of Miami Vice feeling to it. You know, I don’t think you can ever take away what Silence was... The official reason I didn’t do Hannibal is I was doing another movie, Flora Plum [a long-cherished project that has yet to be shot]. So I get to say, in a nice, dignified way, that I wasn’t available when that movie was being shot. But Clarice meant so much to Jonathan and I, she really did, and I know it sounds kind of strange to say but there was no way that either of us could really trample on her.

Did you see Hannibal?
[Whispers] I saw Hannibal. I won’t comment.
http://www.gamesradar.com/the-total-film-interview-jodie-foster/

...[Jodie Foster] said that she did not want to play the new part written for Clarice Starling because it had "negative attributes" and "betrayed" the original character.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/592904.stm


I must say I can't see how the film Hannibal betrays Clarice. She is a very righteous character in the movie, to the detriment of her own career in the FBI. Not once does she give up in trying to stop Lecter, even at the ending (changed from the novel), when her life is in danger and Hannibal puts her to the test, to see if she will give up her values to save her own life. It seems like a natural progression of the Clarice we leave at the end of The Silence of the Lambs, a hardworking person who knows herself and what she stands for, someone who doesn't have to prove anything to anybody but herself, and who doesn't see any personal merit in playing the game of office politics to climb the ranks of the FBI, because her personality has been shaped by the death of her father, the slaughtering of the lambs, the need to prevent senseless death.

I haven't read the novel, but it seems logical to think its ending was one of the main things that bothered Foster, since Clarice runs off with Hannibal, which could be considered a betrayal of sorts. Wikipedia says Ridley Scott was in the third week before principal photography was due to finish on Gladiator when Dino De Laurentiis contacted him about Hannibal ("about a month before it was published in book form"). That means he got involved in the project in June 1999, approximately, around the same time Jonathan Demme bowed out. Foster announced she wouldn't be back in late December 1999. That leaves six months in which Ridley was on board and Foster hadn't yet turned down the offer. It was Ridley who had the ending changed for the film. Since everybody was eager to persuade Foster to reprise her role, and Ridley changed or was interested in changing the ending, how come she didn't return? It's not only logical, but clear from the BBC article, that she read one or more scripts. To those who've read the book: ending aside, was the Clarice of the novel so different from the Clarice of The Silence of the Lambs film that she was discouraged from returning?

Of course, I'm only going by her words. I just think it's likely she got to see a script with the new ending, or at least was told about the idea of changing it. Maybe she flat out didn't like the story, but I'm intrigued because she has never said that. It's always been about the "betrayal" of Clarice, which is a more specific thing to say. And if she left the project before they changed the ending, that's something she could have explained when asked about it in an interview, but she still talks about the project as if it trampled on the character. I understand sometimes diplomacy is the way to go, but I feel she has remained a bit too tight-lipped about her reservations with the script.

So, do you think the film betrays the character? Why do you think Foster turned down the role?

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foster was/is a idiot to pass on this movie i think its the best of the series and even better than the lukewarm 3rd season of hannibal the tv series.

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I do think the original ending was more of a betrayal, though I guess she may have thought even in the new ending Clarice being implied to have let him escape would have been OOC for her. Then again she just may not have wanted to play the character again which I could understand.

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I enjoyed the ending of both the novel and the film.

That said, I preferred the ending of the film, and felt in no way did it betray her character.

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The ending of the film and the book are VERY different, in the book Clarice and Hannibal become lovers and live happily ever after, in the movie Clarice betrays him. So if that was Foster's reason for not doing it, its understandable. I liked the book ending better, although I don't think it would've worked as well in THIS movie. In the book Hannibal helps Clarice see all of the BS the FBI has put her through, find closure with her father, and essentially grow as a character and actually enjoy her life. In the film Clarice seems as if she will always be alone, searching for Hannibal. Although it wasn't until the end, they changed Clarice drastically so its understandable how it could be seen as a "betrayal".

I always wondered why Jodie Foster didn't do the movie now I am glad I know. I did like the movie, but I wish it stuck a little closer to the source material.

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Hannibal helps Clarice see all of the BS the FBI has put her through, find closure with her father, and essentially grow as a character and actually enjoy her life.

Wow, all one needs is to get past that childhood trauma to unveil the well-adjusted cannibal waiting to be born inside.

That's not growing up. That's becoming a victim all over again, and losing the integrity she has in the first film. No matter what the FBI puts her through, her motivation on the inside was always to be the savior she was for Catherine Martin. Having her end up with Hannibal is like turning Ellen Ripley into Bella Swan.

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Yeah, unless I misunderstood, I thought Jodie Foster initially said no to reprising her role because of how her character ended up in the book.

Then, I read they modified the ending (to what we now see in the film) but she still said no - and now simply says the only reason she didn't do the film was because she was working on another film at the time.

But you know how that goes - it's been a while - stories change, memories fade.






Dino De Laurentiis had this to say at the time:

"I call the agent of Judy Foster," recalls Dino, who comically mispronounces the actress's name. "He say to me, 'I have instruction. She no want to read the script if you no give her an offer of $20m and 15% of the gross.' And I say, 'Give my love to Judy Foster, goodbye.' That's a crazy demand." Besides, he says, "I don't believe Judy Foster from day one was right when I read the book."

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Then, I read they modified the ending (to what we now see in the film) but she still said no - and now simply says the only reason she didn't do the film was because she was working on another film at the time.
Something which apparently was only an excuse to bail out from the project. The high salary demands may have been another excuse.

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Yeah, I agree.

I personally had no problem with it because, while I thought Foster was great in Silence... I thought Moore was even better in Hannibal.

Just my $0.02.

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Even if your assumption that Foster felt the movie betrayed the ending of the novel is correct (rather than the film and/or novel betraying Clarice), she probably got to read one or more script drafts that kept the original ending of the novel.

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