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455 years...

posted 15 years ago by pevryn77
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So this movie takes place in the year 2455.
The movie never explicitly states the year that the opening scene was supposed to take place in, however Rowan references 2008 when speaking about the history of the cryogenic chambers, and there was some other reference at some point near the beginning that alludes to the fact that the opening scene was the near future (as in sometime around 2015, give or take).
So WHY do they keep saying 455 years? She was NOT frozen for 455 years, unless she was frozen in the year 2000. Even Kay-Em 14 (the robot chick) says "4.55 centuries".
I know this is a cheap slasher-naked-boobs movie with TONS of plot holes, but the 455 years thing is just plain sloppy. When they were filming (presumably in 2000) they must have forgotten that even the beginning scene was supposed to be in the near future. David Cronenberg's cameo at the beginning was the only cool part of this whole mess.
By the way, on the FAQ page, in explaining how Jason's rusty machete could penetrate the reinforced cryochamber door (which appeared to be at least 6 inches thick), someone replied "I guess Jason is just that strong". Come ON. That's like saying someone could be strong enough to throw a cotton ball through a 2 X 4. It has nothing to do with strength. The materials themselves would not act like that, no matter how strong he is. The blade would snap off or bend or something before ever penetrating steel.
Guess the cryochamber was made of aluminum foil.

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[–] pevryn77 15 years ago

Exactly!
So what the hell? The people making this movie are so dimwitted that they can't manage simple arithmetic. That says a lot about the movie right there. Plot holes aside, they can't even subtract!!! I'd love to see a fan of this movie defend this jewel of a F-up.

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[–] pevryn77 15 years ago

You agree that the beginning of the movie takes place circa 2010, and that the rest takes place in 2455, right?
Are you suggesting that they (the people from 2455) just happened to be 10 years off when they determined how long Jason and Rowan were frozen? And that this 10 year error happened to coincide with the year they filmed the movie (2000) ?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like just a major screw-up. Just curious if you believe otherwise...

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[–] lorddeano 15 years ago

Pevryn77.. you my friend, have no business watching these movies!!
You go into them looking for logical explanations for wot you see!! haha

You should never had made it past the first one!! ;)

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[–] pevryn77 15 years ago

I have no problem whatsoever suspending logic for a cheesy movie. I like watching these types of movies. My problem is in something much simpler... it's not like the actors couldn't have said "445 years" instead of "455 years". That's not quite the same as having a problem like "how did they achieve artificial gravity on their spaceship"...
do you see my point? I can look past leaps of logic no problem... what I am talking about is the fact that no one writing or reading the script COULD DO SIMPLE ARITHMETIC!!!!
There is no reason why they did it, like that something was too hard to explain, etc. THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE.
I am not looking for a logical explanation of anything. I just want to know why they can't add.

[–] lorddeano 15 years ago

Maybe they didnt have maths lessons or calculators in 2455??!

Maybe it was a major *beep* up, who knows. Email them and find out!!
Let us know how it goes.

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[–] SunTanBoyee22 15 years ago

a little off subject..

lorddeano, is your signature from rabid dogs/kidnapped? cuz that movie is amazing (particularly rabid dogs, the rough, original cut)

[–] lorddeano 15 years ago

Nah its from The Last House On The Left (origional)

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[–] elyak15 15 years ago

Obviously they were just giving an estimate. In the movie they even say they weren't exactly sure how long she was frozen. 455 years was just an estimate on their parts. I'm sure that if they knew how much it would up set you the crew would have put a little more time into finding an exact number. Its a movie guys, and a bad one at that, give it a break. (Almost as bad as arguing over Star Trek science)

[–] bbsy 15 years ago

No, he has a real issue, this is the only movie to EVER screw up simple math....

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[–] junkhotshot 14 years ago

Obviously they were just giving an estimate.

It wasnt estimates, its a plot whole:

1# KM said the device that froze Jason was FIRST manufactured in 2010. Therefor the EARLIEST they could have been frozen was 2010. Which would mean the longest they could of been frozen for is 445, not 455 years.

2# Less them 5 minutes later KM then says she has been down there for 4.55 centuries.

3# Then, yet again, less then 5 minutes later the professor refers to Rowan as "455 years old", not that she was frozen for "455 years". Implying she was frozen sometimes after 2020, but that conflicts with what KM said about being frozen for 455 years.

They goofed twice, its such a "wtf how did they not notice this" it almost seems like they did it on purpose to be ironic.

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[–] Lunchbox-3 12 years ago

Yeah that's what's idiotic having KM, the infallible robot, saying the cyro unit was built in 2010 and then saying Rowan has been frozen for 4.55 centuries. Why didn't she say "four and a half centuries" or "over 400 years," something more vague that would allow a little give or take.

[–] Soodinum 11 years ago

Firstly, it's 'plot HOLE', genius, and then this example is EXACTLY what a plot hole ISN'T. Go do some language study and Google Plot Hole while you're at it.

[–] CravenBixby 11 years ago

This response made me seriously laugh til my stomach hurt. And yeah, I agree. This is a pretty trivial complaint in a movie. It's on par with continuity errors where an object is in a slightly different position from one shot to the next. Not a plot hole, just a little less crisp than they could have made it.

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[–] EgaBog 12 years ago

I don't think that is an issue at all. Almost all characters from the Friday the 13th series are stupid enough to get killed, I can't see why they can't be stupid enough to screw up twice.

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[–] skiop 10 years ago

They're still using imperial system even.

[–] fluffchop 10 years ago

"Manufactured in 2010 precise historic records are inconsistent" - Kay-EM

"2455, that's over 400 years" - Rowan

Then Professor Lowe says 455 years old, so he made a mistake.

It's irrelevant to the plot. Also Rowan is actually older than 455 years anyway so nobody is actually wrong but you.

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[–] MaximRecoil 8 years ago

By the way, on the FAQ page, in explaining how Jason's rusty machete could penetrate the reinforced cryochamber door (which appeared to be at least 6 inches thick), someone replied "I guess Jason is just that strong". Come ON. That's like saying someone could be strong enough to throw a cotton ball through a 2 X 4. It has nothing to do with strength. The materials themselves would not act like that, no matter how strong he is. The blade would snap off or bend or something before ever penetrating steel.
Guess the cryochamber was made of aluminum foil.

Why would the cryogenic chamber door be 6" thick solid steel? It isn't a bank vault. Assuming the door was intelligently designed, it would have been hollow with a vacuum in the middle, for thermal insulation purposes, just like a Thermos. There would be no reason to use anything other than mild steel, and it wouldn't have to be very thick either. They would make the outer skin of the door as thin as they could get away with, because the thicker it is, the more of a "heat sink" effect it would have, which is counter productive for any chamber which needs to keep heat in or out. Look at how a refrigerator, freezer, or water heater tank is made, i.e., thin sheet metal skin with thick insulation.

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... which is made of 1095 steel, hardened to 50-55 HRC. It could penetrate relatively thin, mild steel if thrust with enough force.

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