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Don peed on Gal's rug man


Can't believe there's no thread bout this.

That's just plain bad, why would he do that? Evil sunnova bitch.


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That rug really tied the room together, did it not?


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Why do male animals piss around their territory?

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Don is just an animal =- an alpha dog marking his territory without a thought for anyone else. A deliberate nasty act from a nasty man.

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... an alpha dog marking his territory without a thought for anyone else
Not really. He urinates on the carpet next to the toilet very deliberately. Far from 'marking his territory' it's an overt act of disrespect. Animals aren't possessed of such qualities. Don may well behave like an animal but he's a human being, albeit an extremely nasty and unbalanced one.


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. Sorry, but Don does act like an alpha dog (of the human variety) - the deliberate marking of the territory, and just look at how he orders Aitch stop looking at him on pain of being "put in the ground". No question about him being a nasty human being, mind.

"Remember, you have to make it home to get paid" (The Dogs of War)

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britinthehat

Sorry, but I think you know that you really mean he behaves like an Alpha male.

There's no such thing as an 'Alpha dog' unless you're referring to Nick Cassavetes's 2006 film of the same name. Google 'Alpha Dog' and then 'Alpha male' and you'll see what I mean.You won't find any reference to alpha dogs of the human variety (brackets or otherwise). It's a concept you've created.

Even 'Alpha male' is an inadequate term to sum up Don's character.... he's something more akin to a schizophrenic psychopath. A man like Don has absolutely no need to do such a thing. I'd even go as far as saying a man like Don doesn't have the wherewithal to 'mark his territory' in this particular setting. He certainly wasn't 'marking his territory'. His presence alone is more than sufficient for them to know danger lurks at any moment.

As I stated in the previous post, Don's act of urinating on the rug next to the toilet is done out of sheer disrespect, which is a human feeling / act that animals are incapable of. Comparing human behaviour to animals is one thing, and I don't argue that it can be said he behaves like an animal but that relates to his psychotic predisposition to violence, not peeing on the rug.


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I meant alpha dog/alpha male - to me they are synonymous. Alpha Dog in the context I used it is certainly not my construct - in a dog pack one male will take the alpha position - the leader, through strength and aggression. Other dogs submit or face the consequences - they roll on their backs and offer their throats in an act of submission. So the dog in the alpha position is the alpha dog. What is the problem? I haven't seen the film you mentioned and hadn't heard of it. The alpha role could be applied to any dominant creature in a particular group. To me, Don acts like a pitbull - so to me he is an alpha dog. He could be the alpha gerbil, but somehow that doesn't work so well.

Don urinating on the rug is a deliberate act of disrespect on one hand and on the other could be seen, I continue to argue IMHO, as him deciding quite deliberately and antisocially to mark his territory - further backed by him usurping Gal's position in his own home by belittling him and even letting it slip that he slept with Gal's woman.

You perhaps have an issue with Don being compared to a dog/animal? I don't. I saw people like Don act just that way when I worked in a prison, strutting around and being vicious, intimidating the weak, but thankfully safely caged.


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britinthehat

I meant alpha dog/alpha male - to me they are synonymous.
Now you’re saying you meant something else.
Alpha Dog in the context I used it is certainly not my construct - in a dog pack one male will take the alpha position - the leader, through strength and aggression.
What do you mean by it not being ‘your construct’? Construct of what? As for one dog taking the role of leader in a pack, this is a commonly held misconception. Perhaps you’re confusing dogs with wolves? It doesn’t even apply to wolves. This article clears it up.

http://www.vcahospitals.com/main/pet-health-information/article/animal -health/dog-behavior-and-training-dominance-alpha-and-pack-leadership- what-does-it-really-mean/4947
Don urinating on the rug is a deliberate act of disrespect on one hand and on the other could be seen, I continue to argue IMHO, as him deciding quite deliberately and antisocially to mark his territory
“Don urinating on the rug is a deliberate act of disrespect...” I agree with that statement as I’ve already said it and I’m glad you concur now. “... I continue to argue IMHO, as him deciding quite deliberately and antisocially to mark his territory.” Please! Don't be silly. Animals are not capable of feeling disrespect. I mean you no disrespect but you're ascribing human features to animals. It’s called anthropomorphizing.
You perhaps have an issue with Don being compared to a dog/animal?
None whatsoever. I simply understand the difference between anthropomorphizing and what the filmmaker is showing and telling the audience during this specific scene.

EDIT: Did you read my previous post all the way through? If so, why ask if I have an issue with Don being compared to a dog or animal? I've agreed that point more than once and wrote in my last post, "I don't argue that it can be said he behaves like an animal." I don't argue that Don peeing on the rug is a reprehensible act but animal like? Hardly. Incidentally, the film I mentioned was merely to illustrate the term 'Alpha Dog' is irrelevant in the context of this discussion. The point was there is no such term as 'Alpha dog' apart from the film. Alpha dog is something you've made up. If you can see past the fact what you're trying to assert by anthropomorphizing Don's act, then you should be able make the distinction between an animal marking its territory and human showing disrespect. There's nothing wrong with admitting we got something wrong. We're only human... we all get it wrong sometimes.


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"My work is done."

That says everything anyone needs to know about you - your inflated ego and hectoring repetitious arguments. You seriously have issues if you think your little rants infuriate me, they merely leave me baffled by your rock headed attitude. I can spot a troll - and it is trolls like you who spoil these boards with your pathetic desire to get one over on others and some how prove yourself. Apparently you hate academics, no wonder if you failed to graduate school.
As for the tree shredder - I wouldn't waste the juice but I can guess you are some bitter lonely antisocial type who just has to go out of their way to bug people. Critical beatdown? You really make me laugh.

I think we hear your mom calling you to supper. Now run along.

"Remember, you have to make it home to get paid" (The Dogs of War)

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Hold on, didn't you say

I am not going to continue with this.
I knew you'd be back... and you call me a troll. ROFL.
... your inflated ego and hectoring repetitious arguments.
That's funny coming from you.
I think we hear your mom calling you to supper. Now run along.
Nothing like taking a cue from your own reality, eh. Don't get britinthehat. Suggestion: stick to the topic on the board.


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britinthehat

You really need to chill out. Frankly I find you pedantic and I am not going to continue with this.
I wondered how long it would take before you’d start getting personal and pulling words like ‘pedantic’ out the bag.
If you need to feel good by point scoring over trivial semantics then good for you but I am not playing along.
No, it doesn’t make me feel good. Yes, you are playing along.

I am just glad I don't have to watch movies in the same room as you because I really think I would end up putting you face first through a wood chipper but then again something tells me that you watch movies alone.
And now we have the inevitable description of the violent demise you’d like to administer by your own hand... “On no!” he cried, “I didn’t mean it literally”. Save it for birds.

You claim and I quote:
I saw people like Don act just that way when I worked in a prison, strutting around and being vicious, intimidating the weak...
I think anyone reading this thread knows you’re talking poppycock.

Buddy, you’ve run out arguments and you’re full of yourself, or else why get personal? It is really just because I told you there’s nothing wrong with fessing up when get got something wrong? Stop throwing toys out of your pram, admit you got it wrong and I guarantee you’ll start feeling a lot better about yourself. Maybe you should also try stopping your fixation with Sexy Beast; a film you’ve been commenting mostly claptrap on since mid-February

Let’s look at this for what it is. You made what you thought to be a statement of fact. I refuted it with reasons showing you’re wrong. You replied but this time with a noticeable touch of the jitters because I pulled you up on something and by now self-doubt was creeping in. Your response was to start backpedalling, throwing in more specious statements in a vain attempt to try and keep your original statement looking true. I replied by bringing further reasoning as well as some backup from another source in the hope you might see sense and calm down.

Regrettably, this infuriated you causing you to turn the discussion into an argument that includes your fantasy of how you’d like to destroy me complete with the device you dream of using to do it!

Maybe I goaded you and played you for a little fun... hell, who wouldn’t with the utter drivel you’ve posted?

Your response should’ve been to back up your statements with a measured response... the trouble is you had nothing left to say about your ‘Alpha dog’ neologism because it finally dawned on you that you’re spouting bilge but even now you’re incapable of taking your leave in a dignified manner. Tut-tut.

I’m all for a little film criticism and getting into discourse over points but when it comes to the IMDb, I have to remind myself where I am. You’ve reminded me of something I’ve long known, namely that interaction on these message boards is mostly a load of cock that appeals to self-proclaimed academics who like to think that they are so smart that they know more about the meaning of a movie than the people who actually made it.

It’s never fun having your pomposity pricked, is it? Get over yourself, buddy.


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Oh, you are quite right, I am completely in the wrong. Let me just marvel in your wisdom, erudition and finely worded debate. In fact, not only will I not post on imdb I won't watch movies again. You just go right ahead and tell me all I need to know. You're the big man, handing out much needed critical beatdowns. I should be grateful for your attention.

Oh wait, that roaring in your ears is not your glorious triumph, it's just static...

Congratulations you are the first person on my Ignore list.

You never know them all.

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by britinthehat (Tue Feb 25 2014 01:44:42)
Oh, you are quite right, I am completely in the wrong. Let me just marvel in your wisdom, erudition and finely worded debate. In fact, not only will I not post on imdb I won't watch movies again. You just go right ahead and tell me all I need to know. You're the big man, handing out much needed critical beatdowns. I should be grateful for your attention.

Oh wait, that roaring in your ears is not your glorious triumph, it's just static...

Congratulations you are the first person on my Ignore list.
Thanks for the acknowledgment. There’s no need to marvel, I’m not looking for followers, but thanks anyway. In future, I hope that when someone puts forward an idea that doesn’t concur with yours that you can be a little more mature about it and take the time to examine the facts. Trust me, it’ll serve you well.

EDIT: illustration of britinthehat’s adherence to the laws of drama:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/law_of_drama.png


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