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question about rapture


there are various scenes where people are grieving over their raptured loved ones. but if they were raptured, how come the loved ones aren't? one would think if the children are christians the parents would be to. also does god take every child of all religions?

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I think the idea is that little children are not held accountable for their actions until they reach a certain age so they don't have to be Christians.

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This is a Christian eschatology(sp?) issue...

There are as many different versions of Christianity as there are stars in the sky. The men who wrote Left Behind, Lahaye and Jenkins, are classical dispensationalist pre-millenial evangelical born-again Christians.

What they believe, as far as I can tell, is:

1. Children are raptured so long as they are innocent, regardless of national/political/religeous boundaries.

2. Everyone has the right of self-determination. People may raise their children in a faith yet only pay lip-service to the faith they may profess to believe. This would make the children faithfull, yet the parents get left behind.

The bible says that if you believe in your heart and profess with your mouth, you will be saved (Romans 10: 9 through 13). Notice that you have to do MORE than lip service! Believe AND proclaim, not just proclaim.

Belief is the foundation.

Also, the books are SO MUCH better than the movies. You should pick them, or the audiobooks, up.

Peace.

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The bible states that two shall be in the field, one shall be left while the other is taken. I agree with Nicole, parents might take their children to church and not necessarily be saved or live a Christian life. They either are keeping up with the Joneses by making appearances in church, or just playing church, or wanting their kids to behave but not willing to live what they are teaching. I have learned "Do as I say, not as I do" from my own mother who constantly throws "that's not according to the bible" to me all the time while she herself sits in Judgement and ridicule of everyone and picks and chooses who she likes and doesn't. I learned about God and Jesus from being brought up in church, but I learned how NOT to treat people from my mother. When children reach the age of accountability to know what sin is and right from wrong, then they either make the decision to accept Christ or they don't. I believe the same most likely will apply to the children who are taught false religions and suicide religions. I don't know about the age of accountability factor on that, I mean, if they are taught that killing unbelievers and themselves (which is a unredeemable sin) and are never told about God or Jesus, once they are old enough, they probably mentally don't know right from wrong because they are taught that killing is right even though God sais "Thou shalt not kill." I would like to think that people would feel some sort of consience or remorse for purposely taking someone's life.

I am also disgusted at the people who boldly blaspheme God's name and His word. If you don't believe it then you aren't being forced to. You can take that up with Him when you stand before His throne come Judgement day. 8 - ) I'm sure you will have alot to talk about then.

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The Rapture was supposed to happen 1900 years ago. Consider the source, 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 (emphasis added):


15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Note the emphasis on "we": Paul, who wrote that, includes himself among the intended Rapture recipients. It was supposed to happen during his lifetime. Safe to say it didn't...

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No one knows the day or the hour of the Lord's return but we are to know the season. Of course Paul taught on a level that included all Christians and he said that we "which" are alive. That doesn't have to imply in their lifetime. If one reads further because you can't just take a few verses and go with it- Paul writes a second letter to the Thes and told them to not be confused or shaken by word or letter by them (1st Thes book which you just quoted) that the day "was" at hand. That certain things had to happen first. Most importantly it would "not" happen until the son of perdition sits on the throne claiming to be God. This is antichrist and naturally it's safe to say that hasn't happened....

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