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God Deacon Frost Vs Nomak Vs Drake


If these 3 were to battle each other who would win?

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*beep* I'd say frost.






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I'm going to go with Nomak but im going minly by how injured Blade was in the two films.In part 2 Blade was pummeled, and brutalized,Im not even counting part 3 because you can't be the strongest vamp talk about honor and being a warrior but holding babies hostages and killing blind people and kidnapping their kids.










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I'm going to go with Nomak too.

Drake is defined as very powerful, but he has the heart of a chicken. I can't take him seriously.

Frost is great, but he thinks he's invulnerable and he's not. Nomak can stand the vampire-exploding toxin, Frost can't.

Nomak's not as tough as Frost eventually is in a straight fight - but he doesn't have any wrong ideas about what he can and can't do. If the toxin is available and he uses it, I think he wins.

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If Nomak doesn't have the vampire-exploding potion and use it, God Deacon Frost wins of course.

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This is tough.
Okay we have to be precise here.
Towards the end of Blade's fight with Deacon after Blade weathered the storm of Frost's initial outburst of superspeed and regeneration Deacon seemed to be fighting very carefully. It really seemed like he came back down to earth and could be hurt. Note the shot when Deacon barely dodges the sword swipe meant to disembowel him. He had a look like "Close but not close enough". Even though his La Magra factor let him reassemble himself after bing literally cut in two at the beginning of the fight he seemed like he lost his swagger and could be hurt toward thje end of the fight. Where as Nomak who was fighting a Blade that seemed several times more powerful than in the first film was taking much harder hits while sustaining less damage and regenerating as fast. Lets say Deacon's La Magra factor was not a one hit wonder present only at its inception. The only advantage it gave him was regeneration. Nomak was much tougher (no way Blade's sword was cleaving Nomak in two) had superior strength and superior fighting skills (homeboy was running with Blade stroke for stroke whereas Blade repeatedly sliced up deacon in straight duels). Of course the anticoagulant could kill Deacon and not Nmak but that is admittedly weak since non of the bad vamps rock that weapon in theie arsenal. I think Deacon would at the mercy of Nomak and would survive only through his regenerative ability until Nomak finnally ripped his head off or truned him into a reaper.
Now to Drake. Sigh...Blade three was practically non-cano. Blade was barely in the damn film! But okay fine. Blade seemed to be as powerful or moreso as he was in Blade 2. Yet Drake had was not pushed to the limits of his powers by Blade the way Nomak was. Nomak was actually worn down and beaten by Blade (albiet blade cheated a bit hehe). Blade may have been able to beat Drake solo but looked like Abigail really gave him his opening. Drake was a better fighter and was physically the hardest nut to crack of the three super vamps. Hate to say it cuz I luv Nomak but nah...Drake takes it.

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Frost was being possessed by La Magra's soul as in he had power given to him by La Magra but ultimately had vampiric weaknesses had La Magra had his original body he would not have been killed so easy

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I'd say La Magra in Deacon Frost's body, because i could see Drake killing Nomak and then La Magra beating the *beep* out of Drake and killing him

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Its got to be Drake - the other two were defeated by Blade, but it needed an engineered virus to beat Drake. BTW - Nomak was the best adversary though, and Blade 2 rocks!!

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Frost was defeated by the serum which overloaded in him....Drake was defeated by an engineered virus. Nomak was the only one that gave Blade a fight that pretty much almost killed him and could've taken the Blade out of his body and possibly regenerated.

Edit: Drake pretty much did the same damage as Nomak, but the virus stopped him as Nomak could have kept going.

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I'm with you. I say Drake would win. I would say it's because he's the first vampire but that wouldn't be true; Aaliyah played the queen of all vampires in Queen of the Damned and she was killed off way to easily.

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Deacon Frost is a badass he is my favorite out of all 3, but without La Magra (the blood god) he wouldnt be able to cause too much damage to Blade.

Drake would have been an amazing villain because he is very powerful, but he isnt bloodthirsty. Remember, he went dormant because he was disgusted by the world, he never wanted to wake up again, so he's not much of a villain.

Novak was more of a mutated primal vampire. He would have been the next evolution of the vampires and his level of evil from the get-go makes him the most dangerous IMO

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If novak can infect him, sure.

He wins by default.

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Blade 2 was by far the better movie, so that means Nomak wins.

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I don't know that Nomak was necessarily more evil than the others. If we're talking about pure evil, Frost wins, hands down. Seems to me Drake was just being himself; the progenitor of the vampire race and so-called ultimate predator. (You don't call a lion evil for eating gazelles, do ya?) Nomak was just trying to destroy the monsters who turned him into an even worse monster, notwithstandng the alarming level of collateral damage. Frost was out to destroy the human race and put vampires on "top of the *beep* food chain." Like they needed help. :) He definitely wins in the evil department.

Who'd win in a fight? No idea, but wouldn't it be fun to see them in a three-way free-for-all?



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I liked the first 2 films and the third one sucked a bit. At least they were entertaining. Realistically speaking, in my opinion, La Magra/Frost. In time he would've become very much invinsible (at least immune to the potion and increased regeneration). He wasn't at full strenght when he fought Blade and was playing around arrogantly. Let's just take it in consideration that La Magra was a god. Drake and Nomak were biological humanoids.

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Frost, probably even easily. He was too fast and too strong. In one to one, Frost would crush Nomak and Drake. Actually, he could probably beat them combined. And they wouldn't have the serum Blade had.

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If standard anti-Vampire weapons such as EDTA and Ultraviolet light were allowed, Drake would win. He possesses none of the Vampire weaknesses.


If it was hand-to-hand (or at least no anti-Vampire weaponry), Frost would win thanks to his regenerative ability and much more amplified strength and speed. Nomak would lose first and then Drake. Even if Drake dies before Nomak and that Nomak infects Frost, Frost would still finish off Nomak, thus Nomak loses anyway while Frost becomes a reaper (no idea if he becomes animalistic or not like other reaper victims though).

As for Drake vs. Nomak, Drake would do just about the same as Blade did if he fought in his "human" form, but if he had fought in his true Demonic form, Nomak would get owned very quickly. Remember that in the brief fight between Demon Drake and Blade, Blade's blows did hardly anything to Drake (that one kick to the head did make Drake let go of his foot) and was owned very easily, whereas with Nomak, Blade put up a much better fight. Nomak may be a genetically engineered super Vamp (he wasn't evolved nor was a mutant), but Drake in his true form would kick his ass. The only advantage Nomak has over Drake would e that his heart is covered in bone whereas Drake's is not.

Now as for the reason why Drake lost to Blade... the genetically engineered virus known as Daystar would've had the exact same affect on Nomak as it did on Drake, except now the virus would be more geared towards killing Reapers rather than normal Vamps. The whole purpose of Daystar, remember, was not just to kill Drake, but to have the virus combine with his pure Vampire DNA so that it could have the ability to kill ANY Vampire (prior to this, Daystar's lethality to Vampires was "spotty" at best). This means that if Nomak was stabbed with Daystar, he would've died in the exact same fashion that Drake did.

Also, here's how the three villains rank in my eyes:

Best Villain- Frost

Best Antagonist- Nomak

Most formidable opponent to Blade- Drake

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Draje would win as he has no weaknesses to sunlight and other vampire repellants, garlic, silver, etc.

Then Nomak, cos Nomak could not be killed by the EDTA like Frost was. Frost may be faster but he is still way to self confident about his abilities in what he can do. He think he is invincible.

Nomak would kill Frost/La Magra, as Nomak's bite could be lethal to a vampire demigod like La Magra as the EDTA was poisonous to him and Drake would kill Nomak cos Drake does not have all the vampire weaknesses, such as sunlight.

Drake would take offence to the likes of Nomak, a vampire abomination and he would put Frost/La Magra in his place as he will consider himself to be the true vampire god not La Magra.

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Frost wins, the guy was cut in half and his body magically re-conjoins, and he can regenerate entire limbs.... come on, the guy is clearly in his own league. Nomak loses all out, he's basically like Drake, except just not as powerful, in a straight out fight, Drake kills him.

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your a *beep* moron


For one La Magra is the vampire god he created them and is Drakes father

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Without weapons? No biting? No morphing? This could be one of the longest fights ever lol. But I'd say Drake woud be the first to go. It's a tough call between the other two. Nomak is more skilled fighter and it's really hard to killl him, but Frost would probably heal from any damage.

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Better cant confuse best character with best to win a fight.

Nomak was the best character out of all them. But the fight would really come down to Drake vs. Frost. I'd pay to see that :)

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It will be a close match between Frost and Nomak seeing as they both possess great fighting abilities and have immense power (Frost fused with LaMagra and Nomak being the patient zero of the Reaper project). Drake is in my opinion, the weakest and would die first in this battle. Not only is he a coward, but his combat abilities are piss poor. If you watch the fight between him and Blade, hes very stiff and his moves can be seen a mile away. Most of all, the way Blade fights him, hes toying with Drake. Drake tries so hard to strike Blade, and Blade simply deflects his attacks with his sword with just one hand. Simply put, Blade made Drake look like a bush league scrub.

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drake would destroy nomak. he is the first vampire and child of La Magra


all vampires are his offspring

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