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WOULD ETHAN HAVE BEEN COURT MARSHALLED


FOR REFUSING THE ORDER OF THE COMMANDER OF THE SHUTTLE TO RETURN, AND FOR HIS ACTIONS?

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Yes, I think it is highly likely that NASA wouldn't allow him anywhere near anything that flies any time in the future.

When I said I wanted to be a comedian, they all laughed at me. Well, they're not laughing now!

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If it were up to me, I'd have left the disobedient dumba$$ tethered to Ikon so he never could screw up anything else again...

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I would, too, but I'd wake him up first and then I'd shorten his air supply considerably - so that he'd be conscious just long enough to realize what his fate will be for disobeying orders and endangering the rest of the crew.

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It would have been pretty interesting: first of all, Ethan would claim he was working under the instructions of Gershon, the head administrator of NASA, who theoretically outranks all of them.

Then also, there was the question of whether all the Space Cowboys had been restored to active duty from retired status, or were they flying as civilians? John Glenn retired from the Marines in 1965 as a full colonel, but when he flew on the shuttle in 1998, he did not return to active military status.

In that case, Ethan might have been the ranking military officer on board, so whether Frank could overrule his orders in terms of military chain of command would have been an interesting argument.

The space shuttle is not normally a military operation, so disobeying the chain-of-command on the shuttle does not carry legal penalties (as in the military), but internal agency sanctions, i.e., you probably won't be reassigned to future shuttle flights, and in some cases might be released from the astronaut corps.

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Interesting point, but he still disobayed the orders of everyone on the shuttle and at the ground control station except Gershon, who will probably face legal censure after the mission for wilfully neglecting to reveal important mission data and jeprodizing the lives of astronauts, not to mention lying to everyone but Ethan and the Russian.

I think the bigger point is that Ethan's actions lead to the destruction of expensive NASA equipment, endangering NASA astronauts, damaging Russian equipment, and jeprodizing the lives of thousands or even millions, because even if the missile warheads didn't detonate in the atmosphere (nuclear weapons aren't like gunpowder, and they require everything working perfectly to create critical mass), they would still shower weapons-grade nuclear material on the ground or water below, creating an environmental catastrophy.

At the very least, Ethan would be kicked out of NASA, regardless of whether or not he was following Girshon's orders. NASA is the kind of place where even clogging the space-toilet can get you kicked out (expensive equipment, difficult or impossible to replace if it's not fixed, could jeoprodize the mission). With the damage his action caused, NASA's definately giving him the boot. At most, he's going to jail, either in a civil trial for destruction of company property, or a court marshal. Or, he could even be found as an accomplice of Gershon and the Russian general, and could even be charged with Treason.

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My guess, given the highly political nature of NASA, would be that Ethan would be quietly retired. No fanfare, no big public noise...just a move to a desk job somewhere in the ass-end of the space center for a year, and then dismissal.

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Ethan almost killed everyone on earth - he really did deserve the death penalty.

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I suspect that Frank, the mission commander, would be in charge e.g., all 3 returned to the shuttle once Frank said "abort."

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Ethan died after Jerry tossed him out of the shuttle...

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