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RE: what was the meaning...


...of that scene at the hospital on the day of the Buxton fire when John's mother saves that man from dying? When the other doctor tries to inject the lying man with the wrong dosage and almost kills him. Was that guy Sheppard??

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Yes, that is why the number of killings he had done immediately went from 3 to 10, she saved his life and also put hers in jeopardy now.

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All right, thanks! But why was he at the hospital?

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Good question, I don't know. Maybe an illness is all, they never said anything. It was probably not inflicted by one of the girls he killed, othewise they would have investigated a knife wound or something.

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Yeah, it just didn't make any sense....I sort of figured it was him but wondered how he got there?

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*Spoilers*


What "sense" did it have to make? Maybe he'd fallen off a ladder, maybe he had an allergic reaction to a bee sting. Cops and serial killers end up being in the hospital for a variety of reasons, just like anyone else. Hitler could have died of a staph infection when he was ten, and hell, maybe someone who would have been even worse than he was did, though of course we'll never know. The point, in the plot of this story, was to show that chains of events are extremely complicated, and that the best laid plans can go awry. Having successfully saved his father, he causes the death of his mother, who originally wasn't in the right place at the right time to prevent the death of a terrible man--a terrible man who now has a new woman to obsess over.

Movie can't just be about everything working the way the characters intend, or it'd be over in 20 minutes. :)

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Remember when John said "something we did set the killer up to kill 10 girls instead of 3" including his mom?

She went to the hospital and Frank survived the fire. Frank was glad to be alive and goes to the hospital to see her. That is why the killer even notices her.

if she had not been at the hospital to save the killer he would not have killed so many more. Also, the fact that she ran to save him, meant she was now known to him. He looked at her and a week later she died.

except of course she didn't because they changed the timeline.


The entire movie takes place in less than a weeks time in 1969 and 1999. That is all.

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He was supposed to die that night. But because she was at the hospital(rather than finding out Frank had died in a fire), his life was saved and he was able to continue killing. It makes perfect sense.

How he got there is irrelevant.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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Pretty sad to think an ER doctor would miss something major on the charts.

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It happens far more often than you realize.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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I'm sure it happens, but what are the odds?

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Surprisingly good actually. Well... Bad if you happen to be the patient.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/life_a_dan_frit_070306_emergency_room _error.htm

The article explains that 225,000 people die every year(In the US) from mistakes, most of which happen in the ER.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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I agree about hospital errors.

I would have died at 10 years old because a nun intended to give me a penicillin injection. If my mother hadn't been staying overnight, it would have happened and they might have claimed post-operatal shock or something. The sister should have been across the hall tending to a 4-year-old girl with pneumonia, not a 10-year-old who had had a tonsillectomy. That's a major error! She initially remarked, "My! She's big for her age." My mother said, "Actually, she's a bit small for her age." Then, the nun wanted to take my temperature~rectally. My mom said, "I'd better help you because she is NOT going to like that." She said, "We've never had any problems with her." At that point, my mom asked her exactly what she was going to do and was shocked and angered when she was told. I'm so sensitive to penicillin that doctors have said the reaction would be so violent that they wouldn't be able to save me.

Also, I personally know at least three other people who were victims of errors at that same hospital. One woman who had been suffering chest pains was sent home, where she died of a heart attack soon after arrival; they had told her husband there was nothing wrong with her. Two ended up with severe brain damage for separate reasons~a young woman and a boy about 12.

It's frightening what can happen!

Of course, in the movie, for once it would have been a good thing.

*** The trouble with reality is there is no background music. ***

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Not talking about hospital errors in general but rather writing in the wrong dosages or medications.... does not happen often.

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Yes, it does. Did you even read the link I provided or the post of the person who had previously replied to me? Wrong dosages and medications are specifically mentioned in both. They are in fact the first two things mentioned in the article I posted.

Don't try to say you didn't have the time. It's been over a year since your last reply to this thread. Why did you come back, more than a year after the fact, only to ignore the facts you've been provided?

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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