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WWE was no better

posted 19 years ago by fullenw
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Wcw is criticized for misusing Jericho,Benoit and certain others. But how can anyone letalone the WWE criticize for misusing talent. This is the same company that took the most badass highflyer in Perry Saturn & turned him into a punchline for eye jokes and a crossdresser in love with a mop.

Not to mention how WWE ruined the cruiserwight action.

They blow smoke about the Dudleyz being the best team ever and originators of tables. Public Enemy was the team who utilized tables and theres plenty of teams better than the Dudleyz(Eliminators, Gangstas, Whole f'n team, LOD,Steiners). The WWE took one of the best teams of the 90's (public Enemy) and turned them into jobbers.

In the early and mid 90's Wcw actually outdid WWF in wrestling(not storylines or popularity) Sting and Vader would put on a better match than Hogan and Undertaker is what I mean.

Wcw was more creative with matches like the Chambers of Horror match, falls count anywhere,ect.

Wcw almost like Ecw recognized talent. Someone would stay in Ovw for years yet their still not ready but Wcw had celebrities putting on ok matches.

My opinion on Wcws demise is they tried so hard to beat WWF they became WWF(relying on whack sorylines as their bread and butter)Wcw storylines were more realistic by the way.

My point is the way Wcw has been criticized is like the pot calling the kettle black.

[–] Bergman_Fellini87 19 years ago

I agree. WWE did the exact same thing with the unused WCW stars but as bad as WCW. So, Chris Jericho wins the "Undisputed belt", then what happens after he loses? Pretty much goes back to mid card. The same thing happened with Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit.

What about the short title runs in WCW? WWE did the same thing. Scott Hall had a run with the Intercontinental title and lost it 3 days later. HBK and Kevin Nash were tag champs for a day or 2 and the same with with the Steiners.

Get the hell out of the way Hammerhead!

[–] rossig85 19 years ago

Ive been feeling the same way for ages I dont undestand the success of WWE I really dont. My only explanation is that it is commercial so the kids and people who dont know wrestling like it. True Wrestling fans like WCW, TNA, Roh ECW. Thats where the talent has always been. Plus for me World War 3 was fantastic and the 3 tear cage. Does anyone have the second 3 tear cage match anywhere I never saw it and really want to. The one where Nash comes out champion and Sting,Goldberg, Booker T etc are in it

[–] spangladesh920 19 years ago

WWE was more sucsessful because of the stars they pushed. Austin, Rock, HHH, Foley (whichever character is your choice), Undertaker, Angle and more. Most fans agree that D-X was mroe entertaining then the nWo because Vince kept it small (4 guys and Chyna compared to what half the WCW roster?) And correct me if I am wrong, but WCW let go Undertaker (Mean Mark Callous) Austin, HHH, and Foley because they didn't see any potential? Wow...management in WCW sucked. People only tuned in to the nWo cause it was former WWE talent in WCW mocking a "WWE Invasion" (watch the "Monday Night War" dvd).

Personally I would have liked to see more come out of the "Invasion" storyline in 2001. Like it be WWF vs WCW vs ECW instead of combining WCW and ECW. The main thing I would have liked to see is at Survivor Series 2001, instead of having the tag match they did, have WCW and ECW have that match and the winning fed go on to face the WWF team at Wrestlemania.

Of course that's only my opinion...and I could be wrong

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[–] fullenw 14 years ago

WWE was more sucsessful because of the stars they pushed. Austin, Rock, HHH, Foley (whichever character is your choice), Undertaker, Angle and more. Most fans agree that D-X was mroe entertaining then the nWo because Vince kept it small (4 guys and Chyna compared to what half the WCW roster?) And correct me if I am wrong, but WCW let go Undertaker (Mean Mark Callous) Austin, HHH, and Foley because they didn't see any potential? Wow...management in WCW sucked. People only tuned in to the nWo cause it was former WWE talent in WCW mocking a "WWE Invasion" (watch the "Monday Night War" dvd).

Personally I would have liked to see more come out of the "Invasion" storyline in 2001. Like it be WWF vs WCW vs ECW instead of combining WCW and ECW. The main thing I would have liked to see is at Survivor Series 2001, instead of having the tag match they did, have WCW and ECW have that match and the winning fed go on to face the WWF team at Wrestlemania.

Of course that's only my opinion...and I could be wrong

Cactus left WCW on his own. To my knowledge, the door was open for a return. Cactus had an underappreciated run in WCW. It was basically the same as his ECW run. He took some big bumps, had some notable feuds, 2 tag title reigns and main event run although he didn't get the world title. Same for Austin, his feud with Steamboat was good until he retired. He had some decent title reigns, was apart of the Dangerous Alliance (a very underrated group), had a successful team, got showcased well for years and had some good feuds. WCW got Austin over on his natural abilities. Even Austin's matches from 96-97 get overlooked in favor of his later WWE matches. That's somewhat understandable since Austin was so big by that point. There's many guys that WWE didn't see much in, or didn't elevate that were succuessful elsewhere. I just hate the perception that WCW misused so & so because they didn't main event when the same could be said in other cases.

Agreed about HHH and Undertaker, although they were arguably on the verge of pushes before going to WWE. Still highly doubtful that they would have reached that same level in WCW.

As for the NWO using former WWE guys, WWE didn't achieve it's peak in the 80's- early 90's without getting established guys from the AWA, WCCW, NWA/WCW, Stampede Wrestling and other territories.

I too wish all 3 companies stayed separate during the invasion, or make temporary alliances if anything. It was getting more intereting until Stephanie was announced as ECW owner.

Reboot, restart or re-imagining is another word for remake