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why they lost.

posted 19 years ago by TalonSKILLZ
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1. The NWO angle got to lame and when they spilt the 2 black,white vs black,red attack it officialy sucked.it was the shows biggest succes however became there biggest weakness.

2.hogan and flair
im sorry fans of those 2 but we got tired of seeing them always have the title. When they talk about the veteran guys not getting out of the way those are the 2 there talking about.

3.sting
After he won a very poor match with hogan at starcade98 with a poorly executed finish he soon lost his momentum it was a shame that payper view the hype was amazing and failed to deliver it soon would go down hill.Also when goldberg came sting goes midcard bye bye sting.

4.good guys,bad guys.
So many wrestlers after 1998 would change not 1 a year 2 to 3 time a 5 month period that cant happen.you need to stay good or bad and stick with it.

5.WCW TITLE
In 1999 to 2001 how many damm times did that title change to many it seemed 1 a week not good guys.

6.Vince russo
enough said!!!!!

7.Nash jobbed to Hogan.
Remember the finger on the chest ohh god that made no cents literally . It starts now a war nwo vs goldberg well guess what you already did that remember Sting?Now we have to go through this all over again.

8.Commish/Champ.
Remember that stage you win the belt then your the champ and the commish ahh NO that sucks.

9.Jeff jarret .
The chosen 1 my ass hed go back in 4th till one of the feds would give him the belt hey you guys think cenas finish is wack check out double j his best move the guitar, but him hitting garry coleman was great.Other else he sucked the big 1.

10.Redoing the NWO forget it 96 was when it was at its best leave it alone but no god forbid we make a original idea.

11.Goldberg.
Any ?

12.Bash at the beach bold prediction.
Eric jerkoff says after this pay per view we will own wrestling again.He says it will be bigger then hogan turning heel the only poss was goldberg and it didnt shock many at all and guess what wwe didnt flinch.Besides goldberg was back at face in 3 weeks hurting scott steiner freak then scott beating up goldbergs girl it changed in 1 week make up your damm mine.

13.Poor finacial moves.
They spent to much money on hot chicks and dint get new talent when needed dont get me wrong they had hotter chicks then wwe at the time with torrie wilson,stacy k, midajah,pamela paulshock,nobody in the wwe could compare except trish.God they were hot but that couldnt save them.

14.The worst wcw moment of all??????
DAVID ARQUETTE what in the hell is wrong with you wcw i defy any wrestling/wcw fan to find more a embarrising moment then when david won the belt it was hideous.GOOD GODD.

So guys whatcha think agree disagree please add some that i have missed i know i have but theres only 24 in a day.

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[–] Kain_Templeman 19 years ago

well that and the fact they were never a company they were a network that Turner had invested in it was never ran as a company it was just ran as a network TNT.

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[–] hitman5131 18 years ago

It's just retarded how badly WCW mis-used Bret Hart.

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[–] fullenw 17 years ago

Basically most wrestling promotions in this case WCW get held to higher standards than WWE. Most of the things that WCW gets criticized for, another promotion has done the same thing if not worse.

Pushing/Creating new talent - IMO I've always felt WCW did push new talent, just not in the main event. Jericho as a heel won alot of his matches clean and dominated the cruiserwight division. Beniot piled up a ton of victories, some over established guys. The cruiserweights were doing their thing. Alot of young guys were showcased on almost every show. Funny how people got tired of seeing old guys in the main event because it was the older guys kept me interested, but thats just me. There were a few guys I wanted to main event though, Bagwell and Konnan come to mind. WCW did create & push alot of new guys like Bigshow, Harlem Heat, Bagwell, Mongo (although he wasnt a good wrestler), Disco Inferno, Marc Mero, Brian Pillman, Sid, Hugh Morris, Kanyon, Jackie Moore, Glacier, DDP, Austin (although he didnt main event), Crowbar, Debra, Chuck Palumbo, Daffeny, Sean O'Haire, Major Guns, Jamie Noble. They made Vader and Cactus Jack famous in the states, same for Regal, Dave Taylor, Ultimo Dragon and Finlay.

NWO - The NWO grew tiresome to me in late 98 and I thought the Warrior would end it. Still it wasn't the only storyline WCW had. They had a lot of believable storylines although they weren't in the main event.

Finance - Couldnt agree more about overspending. Hogans contract was loaded. Nothing wrong with bringing in celebs but spending too much money on them and guaranteed contracts probably wouldnt have had WCW in the red at the end of 1999.

IMO some things are overblown, I think Nash said he wasn't booking when he ended Goldbergs streak. I could care less about the Starcade 97 finish or Hogan dominating, the match wasn't that good regardless. Both their rematches and the match they had a couple years earlier was better. I believe Sting being out of shape might have had something to do with his performance.

I wouldn't give the death of WCW book much credibility, as far as I know the authors didn't even work for WCW. The backstage power of Hogan might have put WCW in bad shape but not so bad that it'd go out of business. I'd sum it all up to overspending and being held to higher standards than WWE as most promotions are.

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[–] Coconut_Kaasa 15 years ago

Foolish Fools. Everyone knows WCW ended after Booker T and Scott Steiner guest starred on The Jersey!

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[–] kingaliencracker 15 years ago

It's funny. I keep reading all these reasons why WCW folded, and while they're all valid to a point, I think they're also overcomplicating the very simple reason.

Everyone just wanted to make money, and no one cared about the company itself.

You could make an argument that Bishoff did care at one point, and was determined to defeat Vince McMahon. But once he became an on-air character and the dollars started flowing in, he got sucked into it like the rest of them.

Not that there's anything wrong with wanting to make a lot of money. I don't blame anyone who bled that company dry. If Ted Turner and the jackals at Time-Warner were willing to give $3 million a year guaranteed, who would refuse it?

But there was no passion and no unity. That's what killed WCW.

[–] TMC-4 10 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksN6QXC-TI

Gary Rhodes & George Coles with their opinion on the 10 people responsible for WCW's demise.

[–] cjware1974-535-342216 10 years ago

Ready To Rumble and Thunder In Paradise, ring a bell like what the hell were they thinking.