The 1992 film Glengarry Glen Ross is far better than Boiler Room.
I also thought Affleck's character in Boiler Room was nowhere near as convincing as the character Alec Baldwin plays in Glengarry.
Anyone agree?
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I agree to a certain extent. I loved Glengarry Glenn Ross. Its got a much better cast and performances than Boiler Room. On the other hand, while Boiler Room (which I finished watching today and rather enjoyed it) is similar to Glengarry Glenn Ross in many respects, the two movies are both vastly different in alot of respects as well.
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glengarry is actually based on a tony award winning play by david mammit i believe.. anything that comes from the theatre seems to have alot of merit.. i agree.. it is better but both are good
shareI lked Boiler Room better. I just recent watched GGGR and thought it was ok.
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This movie is a sad example of how young film makers and actors today can only express themselves through imitation. This movie really wanted to be a cross between Glengarry and Rounders... the end result is something very far away.
shareI've watcheg Glengarry Glen Ross two times now, yet still don't see the great interest in this movie. Maybe it works better as a play?
As for Alec Baldwin's character, he was on stage for virtually 10 minutes in only one scence. It was a great part by him, but it doesn't make up for the next hour and so minutes of the movie... in my opinion.
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I like Glenross but it felt very slowed paced. It did have some of most hilarious memorable lines ever though, definitley a great classic. But as Alec Baldwin's character speech kinda annoyed and shocked me, Ben Affect's character totally motivated me instead.
shareI thought Glengarry Glen Ross was an incomplete story. I didn't think it told a complete story. It seemed to focus in far more on a salesman's desperation than about the art of the sale or the shady ways of salesmen. The focus of the story is Lemmon's character, yet all these other characters get almost equal face time.
To me that film was more adult, but missed it's mark.
Boiler Room hits it's mark, but doesn't aim for a target that is as difficult.
GGR is indeed better, but so what? Even Boiler Room acknowledges this by directly paying homage to GGR as a better movie within the Boiler Room movie itself.
Boiler Room is a step below GGR, but it's still a good GGR-like movie, so that's still great, despite it not being as good as GGR.
Ben Affleck was awesome in Boiler Room. Not as good as Baldwin in GGR, no, but still awesome.
It is not just the shadow of Glengarry Glen Ross that this film labours under, but also that of Wall Street, and quite wisely both films are acknowledged in Boiler Room, however it doesn't exceed either of them.
It has elements of both in them, the nature of the capitalist system, masculinity, and selling your soul for material gain. It even has the father-son conflict that was in Wall Street.
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I have both movies and have to say that I enjoy Boiler Room much more. Both are classics in my book though. No one can touch Alec Baldwin's epic monologue in GGR either.
shareGlengarry Glen Ross just had a better script and better actors, one of the best casts ever, in fact. Jack Lemmon, Al Pacino, Ed Harris, Kevin Spacey and Alan Arkin vs. Giovanni Ribisi, Vin Diesel, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan and Ben Affleck, come on, how could it not be miles better?
shareAgreed. Its not even close.
shareWe have this movie - Glengarry Glen Ross - to thank for the character of Old Gil in the Simpsons!
share@Gwasgray Jack Lemmon, Al Pacino, Ed Harris, Kevin Spacey and Alan Arkin vs. Giovanni Ribisi, Vin Diesel, Nicky Katt, Scott Caan and Ben Affleck, come on, how could it not be miles better?
Looks like someone forgot Jamie Kennedy - now they're even, lol.
I agree. I love Boiler Room, some really memorable scenes, but Glengarry Glen Ross was on another level altogether in almost every aspect.
I mean, take Vin Diesel's character "closing the deal" with that doctor and the fake shares/IPO/etc. Great scene, and loved the way it was acted out. But by gosh, Al Pacino's Ricky Roma closing the deal with his conversation about women and life in general - you just can't get any better than that, from the acting to the flamboyant characters to the script and the plot. And then you have additional scenes building up on that "sale", with Al Pacino and Jack Lemon playing off each other (and then at the back of that you have an even more complicated storyline regarding the driving plot of Glengarry). G G R was just a magical movie.
@testinator Have you seen Wolf Of Wall Street? There are a couple of scenes where Belfort closes a deal for penny stocks on the phone. Both are IMO better than Diesel's performance.
Pacino's way of selling was interesting, but I was disappointed that we don't see the close.
There is zero comparison.
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