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posted 9 years ago by travelinlightbill
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At the end, when Gideon dumps Anderton into the vault with the other pre-criminals, he says: "You're a part of my flock now, John. Welcome. It's actually kind of a rush. They say you have visions, that your life flashes before your eyes. That all your dreams come true."

Everything that comes after that is extremely pie in the sky: Lara visiting Burgess, getting information out of him about the murder of Anne Lively... all the way to the very end where John and Lara reunite and get ready for their new child. Isn't it possible that all that happens after John's dropped in is just what he's dreaming in the vault? That pre-crime just goes on, that the pre-cogs are still in their tank, that John is still locked in the vault?

[–] karlhinze 9 years ago

Oh not this one again...

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[–] DracTarashV 9 years ago

Yeah, people clearly love to debate about this. As far as I'm concerned, what we see is what we get.

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[–] mikeyg24 9 years ago

Why can't people watch a movie and accept what they see without hitting the arrogant switch and come up with a totally optional explanation for which there's no suggestion. OP don't you think that if that were the case John's dream come true would put him back at that pool, he comes up from under the water and his son is still there. No more pain, separation from his wife or years on the wiff? You don't have to reply I know you realise I'm right.

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[–] travelinlightbill 9 years ago

Hey, mikeyg24, thanks for taking the time to reply. If you notice, all I did was ask questions. I'll restate them for you: "Isn't it possible that all that happens after John's dropped in is just what he's dreaming in the vault? That pre-crime just goes on, that the pre-cogs are still in their tank, that John is still locked in the vault?" If you consider that his wife was able to break into security and let him out (and how did she get in to security? By using HIS eyeball, which should have set off all kinds of alarms, since he's now a prisoner and not an active cop with valid security clearance) and, of course, they never show the procedure to warm him up and wake him up, and however long his recovery time might be; he's just awake and dealing with things. And no, his dreams wouldn't have taken him back to the pool where his son disappeared, because that was something that happened long before his arrest and was not resolvable merely by being broken out by his wife.

Also, please notice that I did reply because you did nothing to answer my original questions. You stated your opinion, which is absolutely valid, but no more than anyone else's. Seems more arrogant to slam someone for asking questions than it ever is to ask the questions in the first place.

[–] yurenchu 9 years ago

Personally I don't think that your proposed interpretation is true. If John was indeed dreaming in his tank and his dreams came true, then Sean would have been found alive and be reunited as a teen with his parents; but that's not what we see happen.

However, I do feel your proposed interpretation has a precedent. Gideon's line "they say that you'll have visions; that all your dreams come true" is remarkable at least, and must be in the script for some reason. Coupled with his earlier line "but on the inside: busy, busy, busy!", it does seem to foreshadow a dream sequence inside Anderton's head. Anderton's wife suddenly going into rescue mode as a seasoned heroine comes off as a bit fantastical too. Furthermore, the script of Minority Report was originally opted as a sequel to Total Recall (1990). In Total Recall (1990), the ending was intentionally ambiguous, hinting at that the protagonist, Doug Quaid, may or may not be actually dreaming the whole movie. It wouldn't be too far-fetched that Spielberg may be paying tribute to that. Spielberg's previous movie, A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001), actually ended with the protagonist retiring in a happy, dreamt up world.

What we see happen at the end of Minority Report, is that instead of Sean's real abductor, it's Lamar Burgess who gets his "just deserts". So if we are to presume that the ending is a dream, then rather than Anderton's dream it seems more like Agatha's dreams come true. And the idea that the whole movie is Agatha dreaming is more logical-sounding and more satisfactory than the end being Anderton's dream, because Agatha has been shown to be in a dream state (namely: dreaming the future) and having visions the whole time.

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[–] travelinlightbill 9 years ago

Thanks for your deeply considered reply. I see what you mean; if "all his dreams" are going to come true than he should also be reunited with his lost son. Also, not only was this movie originally optioned as a sequel to Total Recall, both movies were derived from stories penned by Philip K Dick. I haven't read either but would be interested to try. I have read of few of his novels; the VALIS trilogy is about as trippy as it gets.

Interesting theory that the entire movie is Agatha's dream; I'd love to speculate on it if there were any hints of this in the movie. Though it's true that she is in a constant dream state, her dreams always seem to be pretty disjointed and, of course, focused on murders yet to happen. By contrast, the movie is pretty straight-forward and follows a normal, fluid and logical progression.

[–] karlhinze 9 years ago

LOL. The whole film is a dream by one of the precogs. 

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[–] mikeyg24 9 years ago

I answered as I did because I, and others, have seen your post asked umpteen times. My problem is you picked one line from the movie and used it to counteract everything we see for the last fifteen minutes. So what are you saying? That Burgess wasn't corrupt? That was all a dream? Anderton didn't uncover a plot to kill Anne lively it was all in his dreams? It's funny how you don't explain all that. What would the purpose in the finale be if it were to be considered as per your opinion? What does it do for the plot? You don't explain that either. People who insist on reading between imaginary lines without explaining why, for their own edification is as arrogant as it gets. In your opinion a two second line negates fifteen minutes of what is actually a very good and, notwithstanding the concept of time paradox, logical ending.

Maybe the jailer said what he said to either tease or comfort John?

I've had a lot of sobering thoughts in my time Del Boy, it's them that started me drinking!

[–] travelinlightbill 9 years ago

Okay, again, I have to repeat... all I did was ask a question, which you've apparently never encountered before. I don't have an opinion, I merely wondered at the possibility. If you're not capable of seeing things that aren't handed directly to you on a plate, that's fine for you. I am willing to ask challenging questions. You've answered with your opinion, which is fine. I have no problem with people displaying their opinions.

Call me arrogant all you wish. I think it much more arrogant to refuse possibilities merely because you would rather stare at the wonder of the Wizard rather than dare to look for the man hiding behind the curtain.

[–] karlhinze 9 years ago

Oh come on.

You're asking if it's possible. In that case, yes. Is that what you want to hear?

It's also possible that Josh Baskin never actually woke up in an adult body in Big, and that it was all a dream from the moment we see him go to bed (it's the first example that came into my head).

At the end of the day, it's not a true story. You can interpret it however you wish.

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[–] Hemorrhage911 9 years ago

This is dumb. "Big" doesn't allude to, ever, that it was a "dream" at the end. Minority Report does.

That's it. You either go with that interpretation or you don't. But to mock it when the film CLEARLY gives hints that it's a dream makes you ignorant, and quite frankly, an arrogant *beep*

[–] karlhinze 9 years ago

If you think my post is dumb, yet you believe that Minority Report "CLEARLY" hints that it's a dream, then you are one very deluded human being - and you've missed my point by some distance.

My point was in relation to the fact that somebody said that it may have been a dream because that was a possible explanation... I was merely making the point, through blatant pedantry and exaggeration, that just because something is possible doesn't make it a strong argument.

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[–] hammerbutt 9 years ago

I can recall discussing it on this board back when the movie first came out. It was then and still is now a valid question for anyone who watches the movie. Do you think you're the sheriff of this board? If you don't want to discuss it ignore the topic. Who cares if you're sick of hearing it if you don't like it move on

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[–] Hemorrhage911 9 years ago

What the hell are you talking about?

His "dream" started from the present and went forward. His dream started where it did because he was fixated on taking down a corrupt system. Yes, finding his son would have been dream-like, but that being absent does not take away that the end being a dream is a valid interpretation.

[–] Degree7 9 years ago

Is it necessary to be such a prick, I know we're on the Internet and all, but...

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