I've seen the movie several times. I didn't get that scene until I watched "Triumph of the Nerds". Now I can sleep.
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Triumph of the Nerds...is a 1996 documentary/panel discussion with all the important computer people...the real guys, who are portrayed in this Pirates of Silicon Valley movie. I don't know what light it sheds on the virgin quote, but that's what the movie is.
shareIMO, that phrase was not meant to be about sex---but rather about life&its experiences. Jobs had been around in this world--knowing lots of diverse people&doing many different, unique things. He was very active---and he wanted his workers to be the same. In the movie he just came off as being arrogant about it.
shareJobs was and is a jerk. That was meant to demean and humiliate the man. Sure a suit and tie IBM engineer type wouldn't have fit in well at Apple, but he could have just said that. He didn't have to verbally assault the man.
Anyone notice how, when Noah Wyle impersonated Jobs at the next MacWorld, he asked that same question of the real Steve Jobs? Jobs didn't answer.
That scene was more of like Steve Jobs' severe dislike for people who are IBM types.For him,IBM was the enemy and bringing it down was his ultimate goal.
shareAlso,according to the book,iCon,Steve Jobs would ask this question to his job applicants to separate the "strong from the wimps".
shareFunny that he became more hated than IBM ever.
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I found myself getting angered at Jobs during that scene, and not just because of feeling sorry for the guy being interviewed.
I couldn't help but feel that Apple could have used a few guys who didn't fit into the Steve Jobs mold, and who did fit into the older suit-and-tie corporate mold.
...And I say that as somebody who would have fit right in to the Steve Jobs culture. Hell, I could have regaled him with stories of my acid trips and all the crazy stuff I got into while under the influence, and had him eating out of the palm of my hand. And me out of his.
But I can't help but wonder why, as somebody who'd studied Zen more than I ever did, Steve Jobs never seemed to notice that if you take any idea far enough in one direction, it becomes its opposite. Non-comformity becomes the new conformism. A diverse workplace becomes a workplace startlingly lacking in diversity. Which is just plain bad for business.
But when the great outcast became the great caster-out of good people like that poor schmoe Jobs was tormenting in that scene, didn't that kind of set you up to cheer a bit for the coder who a few scenes later, literally slammed Jobs up against the wall after working thanklessly 70+ hours a week and then being bullied on top of all that?
"I don't deduce, I observe."
I think that's exactly the point of the scene
Jobs just had a fight with his daughter's mom and was looking to take it out on somebody, entirely unreasonably and very childishly
He wasn't meant to be liked in that scene, or even correct
You're right, he should have hired a more corporate-type executive as CEO of Apple....perhaps someone who ran a soft drink company? ;)
shareYes, I am! So what?
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iPods are overpriced. im waiting till when they drop down to ten bucks or im just gonna go with a dell jukebox.
ATHIESM ROX, MAN
Microsoft are releasing the X-Player (which is yet another supposed "ipod kller")
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Funny how Dell dropped all but one of their MP3 players, and it's only a matter of time until the Ditty is gone.
shareLOL right.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
If you want PROPER MP3-players, buy them from Hong Kong. About 20 unoriginal brands are all better than Ipod.
Morty Seinfeld: "My wallet's gone, my wallet's gone!"
Are there sodas that are "better" then PEPSI?
Sure, but people still buy Pepsi because they associate SODA and PEPSI as one.
That is why Ipod is so successful.
People think MP3 Player they thnk iPOD.
An "iPod Killer" won't be a device, it will be an amazing market campaign, and let's face it marketing ideas are in the gutter right now. There was like 2 good commercials duing the super bowl.
I always thought Coke was the one associated with soda drinks. When I think of coke, I think history, universal, stability, and humility. When I think of Pepsi, I think shallow, fickle, tabloid teenager focused and arrogant.
shareThe clip is on Youtube if you search for Macworld 1999. I actually thought that scene was exaggerated until I read Steve's biography and found out he really did ask that question.
sharehello from nearly a decade in the future
shareThere is another meaning to that word virgin. A virgin was somebody in the business who had never worked for IBM. Why was this important? Computer companies figured out a way to make computers that could run IBM compatible software without violating their patents.
These companies did not want former IBM people involved in computer design.