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Big mystery - was this the sequel to Poor Cow?


Can anyone answer this question with authority?

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it's not a big mystery, it's just not, everyone just thinks too much and likes to draw links between things but really there's nothing to draw, soderbergh just used some scenes from the film for some old footage of terrence rather than use a wig and make up...

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Yes, I think. Poor Cow was about the life of a woman susceptible to the skewed self-confidence of a man like Wilson, and about the feelings of the daughter they raised. The Limey is about the later life of Wilson himself. I feel this way because of the resonance of his daughter's need to tell the truth to the police when she was a child, and in her adult relationship with Valentine, and because of the words of "Colours", the song clip from Poor Cow used at the end of The Limey. "Freedom is a word I rarely use without thinking of the time when I was loved" sings the young Wilson. As Wilson flies home from Los Angeles we realise that in the 'freedom' he now inhabits, he has learned his daughter's fate, but has learned also that he was responsible for her need to have the men she loved do the right thing, and obey the law. We see the young man unaware that his behaviour, and its effect on his daughter, will inadvertently lead to her death. He was always loved by his daughter. The young Wilson sings these lyrics without sensing how they'll have deep resonance much later in his life, and we feel the tragic irony of the flawed life we now know he's going to lead.

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Have you actually seen Poor Cow? There is no daughter. Joy (Carol White's character) has a son with her husband. She has a love affair with Dave (Terence Stamp), but they have no children. If you look at the clip at the end of The Limey, you can see that only part of the picture is shown. In the original clip from Poor Cow, you can see Joy with her son, but obviously this wouldn't fit in with the plot of The Limey. The Limey was probably inspired by Poor Cow (what might happen to a bloke like Dave as he got older), but it is not a sequel.
Poor Cow was based on a novel by Nell Dunn. Dunn later wrote a genuine sequel (never filmed), depicting a much older Joy living with her mother having finally left her abusive husband. Her son is grown up, but Dave is dead: he committed suicide in prison.

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No. No connection. I have spoken with the editor. Soderberg's original choice was Michael Caine. He had this flashback idea in mind. The character had to be British, in a movie around the 60's, who went to prison and had a daughter.

I forget the movie, but Michael Caine fit this profile. It wasn't a movie as big as Get Carter or anything, very low-key, but the distribution company wouldn't allow him the rights to it for whatever reason. So he went for Terrence Stamp.. who fit all the criteria.

A similar trick/joke was used in Austin Powers. Michale Caine is describing how Austin and Dr. Evil were split up, they show a YOUNG Caine in front of a burning car, a clip from one of his movies.

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get carter

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Not "Get Carter", it was "Hurry Sundown".

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Skewered. One sympathises...

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More famously than Austin Powers was the use of Gloria Swanson's silent films for her character (Norma Desmond, a former silent film star)in Sunset Boulevard.

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And lest we forget the excised sequence with Dennis Hopper and Daryl Hannah from "The Passion of the Christ".

What is the sound an imploding pimp makes?

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More famously than Austin Powers was the use of Gloria Swanson's silent films for her character (Norma Desmond, a former silent film star)in Sunset Boulevard.

THAT was an amazing scene. Plus, the film Norma was screening was one that few people ever saw, Queen Kelly.

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