In the flashbacks Wilson has where he is shown with his wife, does anyone know who plays the young Wilson? I'm interested because he looks very much like a younger Terence Stamp, but surely they couldn't have made him look that much younger for the film? I was wondering if it was maybe a relative or something?
shareThat's actually footage from an old Terence Stamp film. I'm not sure which one. Does anybody know? I think it works quite well.
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Poor Cow (1967), from trivia of The Limey
shareDid anyone else get this, or is this a dumb question?
Obviously, the Stamp character is a continuation of his Poor Cow character, they are both British gangsters named Wilson. I also thought Valentine was a continuation of Fonda's character from Easy Rider, it would make sense because a lot of motorcycle hippies became slick rock or movie producers in L.A. Also, it seemed like Soderbergh was referencing himself on some points, also making it clear this was probably going to be his last "independent" film.
You're definitely on to something, Magnus. But Stamp's character in Poor Cow was not named Wilson and Fonda's character (Wyatt) died at the end of Easy Rider.
Soderbergh is obviously using the mystique behind the two characters and the two actors. Hitchcock said something about how movie stars come with their own first acts.
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Also,
just to add to the ideas,
Barry Newman was the star of 'Vanishing Point,' another 'Easy Rider' - like movie in which he also, like Peter Fonda, ends up dead.
Not sure what all this means but it certainly adds to my general feelings that the loss of Soderbergh to rather more mainstream film making is a sad, sad thing.
You're a little about Stamp playing a character named Wilson in both "The Limey" and "Poor Cow". See, in "Poor Cow", Stamp's character is named Dave Fuller, whereas in "The Limey", his character's first name (in the script, not said in the movie) is Dave.
sharethe young wilson is played by the old wilson in the movie.. it's the same actor. He looks younger because the director has taken clips from the older movie "Poor Cow" that Terece Stamp(wilson)had done in his previous years and incorported those clips into The Limey.
shareI rented this movie from a store in LA a few weeks ago and on the DVD it mentioned something about the character in The Limey having the same name so that Soderbergh could use the clips. Obviously his name's not Wilson in Poor Cow, it's Dave Fuller, so what the hell are they talking about? Was it Dave Wilson? Anyone got the same DVD I watched?
shareNow that was an excellent film 'Poor Cow', that is the only 'Johny Binden' (RIP) film I have seen.
sharePerhaps "Wilson" was a cover name? maybe not... just guessing....
sharenah, can't have been. Valentine's 'security adviser' (Barry Newman), heard the name 'Wilson' being shouted at Terence Stamp's character by Luis Guzman's character just after Wilson back-ended Barry's Merc over the edge of the road - and from this Barry's character figured out that he was most likely the father of Valentine's murdered girlfriend who shared the same surname. Also, Barry's character did check ups and garnered information about Wilson's past, so I presume he must have had the right name.
Fair guess though.
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shareAs posted on another thread:.......
There is no connection (story line-wise) to Poor Cow. I have spoken with the editor. Soderberg's original choice was Michael Caine. He had this flashback idea in mind. The character had to be British, in a movie around the 60's, who went to prison and had a daughter.
I forget the movie, but Michael Caine fit this profile. It wasn't a movie as big as Get Carter or anything, very low-key, but the distribution company wouldn't allow him the rights to it for whatever reason. So he went for Terrence Stamp.. who fit all the criteria.
A similar trick/joke was used in Austin Powers. Michale Caine is describing how Austin and Dr. Evil were split up, they show a YOUNG Caine in front of a burning car, a clip from one of his movies.
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The production notes on the DVD incorrectly state that his name was Wilson in both films.
shareHaving read about the use of clips from Poor Cow, by Ken Loach, was the only reason that I saw The Limey, which I loved. Not only do I really like Ken Loach, but the idea of doing this was so cool.
I HATED Sex, Lies, and Videotape (Sorry!!!) and hadn't seen Schizopolis or Kafka yet, both of which I liked when I eventually saw them, so otherwise I wouldn't have paid attention.
And, yeah, it is a shame that Soderbergh got hooked up with his Hollywood buddies. Solaris was embarassing after the Tarkovsky version. I could barely sit through Ocean's 11.
The Argentine sounds interesting.
I DID like Traffic, just like I liked EVERY version of Traffic, even the most recent US mini-series. The plot on that one got a bit out of hand - away from the drugs and into a cliched disaster movie scenario, but how could I not like anything starring Martin Donovan.
Speaking of whom, Hal Hartley - now there is a director who stays attached to the indie scene like a deranged limpet.
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