Ghost Dog VS. Leon - Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai (2000) Discussion

[–] thewholebrevitything 16 years ago

Leon killed more in the final scene and also they were heavily armed and trained police. Ghost Dog killed old men. However I call it a tie.

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[–] koffeenkreame41-1 10 years ago

Leon killed more in the final scene and also they were heavily armed and trained police. Ghost Dog killed old men. However I call it a tie.

^^This. Tie for me too. Both were badass as hell though!

"I'm the ultimate badass,you do not wanna f-ck wit me!"-Pvt Hudson in Aliens.😬

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[–] mf_boom 15 years ago

good point by both (leon killed more, but GD died from his own free will)

Although i prefer GD as a film i think Leon takes this, as he (from what we the viewer saw) had more game time, and im sure experience counts for a hell of a lot for assasins!

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[–] beforescience 15 years ago

Leon may not have given his life completely freely, but he did give it consciously. Such a great ending. Leon (or The Professional, as I knew it at the time) was my favorite film for a while after it came out, and that may cloud my objectivity (though I enjoyed Ghost Dog quite a bit) but I think Leon wins. Of course, no women, no children. Forget about all the cops he takes out at the end, he ravages the body guards at the beginning without using a gun if I'm remembering it correctly. As he says, the rifle is the first weapon to learn, the better you get, the closer you can get to the target.

Childish?!? There`s no point in being grown up if you can`t be childish sometimes.

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[–] tambrico 15 years ago

Hey *beep* thanks for spoiling the ending of Leon

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[–] thewholebrevitything 15 years ago

I just realised the question was best hitman not killer so I have to say GD over Leon. Leon was pretty effective but I think GD is more "cinematic".

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[–] say_whut 15 years ago

well that's kind of missing the point. neither character is defined by committing acts of violence, and they're not meant to be commando killing machines. i look at it kind of like sanjuro, where mifune's title character defeats the villain murato in a duel. afterward he says they were the exact same, both well-crafted swords, only murato was the naked blade, the one who wouldn't stay sheathed. both leon and ghost dog are more defined by the times they keep their swords sheathed, so to speak.
in other words who's the better killer is trivial and a moot point.

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[–] thewholebrevitything 15 years ago

No one said anything about killing machines. We are talking about effectiveness, that is quality, not quantity.

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[–] Ivan357 14 years ago

For me it's Leon since he killed people who were trained to take him out and they wern't a bunch of old men who sat around watching cartoons. But it's hard to compare because The Professiolal was such a well made movie. Ghost Dog could of probably got hit by a train and survived. The way he swings his guns around like swords in public and the amount of cars he steals while the owner has their back turned would have the cops all over him in no time.
I guess what i'm saying is Ghost Dog wouldn't last 10 minutes in the movie The Professional.

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[–] subase 14 years ago

True, remember Leon was a just a tool and childlike individual used by others and taken advantage of. Sort of a sublime enforcer, that's all.

In contrast Ghost Dog was very very independent and only because he followed the code of the samurai was he vulnerable.

Leon was younger and had better combat skills but GD was a more of a thinker and artist. The only time he storms in like Leon results in him basically killing practically all his enemies, with no injury. Also to keep in mind GD uses dual supressed .22's and shoots people in the heart. That takes some mad pistol skills.

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[–] cyguration 13 years ago

Yeah I agree...

I think GD walks away the winner by only a very marginal degree. Though I imagine setting, setup and environment would play a much bigger part in really comparing the two.

It's almost like comparing Jason Bourne to the new James Bond.

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[–] NotAnUndercoverCop 13 years ago

I often watch one right before or right after the other when partaking in a movie watching marathon. Good question. It's hard to say who'd win. It would be like on the Wire when Omar and Brother Mouzone met face to face. The amount of badass would probably just bounce off each other. They'd both just implode or explode if they ever met.

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[–] Movie_Piranha_1979 11 years ago

I like both, but i choose Ghost Dog...

Prostitute: What the *beep* are you doing?
Johnny: I'm gonna kill a bunch of people.

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