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Would have been better without the video (SPOILERS)


I saw this movie back in 2002 and saw it a few weeks ago on Showtime. Both times, I somehow missed the part of the film where the National Security Advisor watched the video showing the protestors shooting at the embassy. So, because I thought that what was on the tape was unknown, it made the opening sequence in Vietnam more powerful, adding a morality component -- what is justified in war when you are trying to save your comrades?

Without the video clearly (and unbelieveably) showing every member of the crowd firing at the Marines in the embassy, you get to evaluate the merits of what the movie seems to be arguing with the inclusion of the Vietnam sequence. It opens the door for real debate on what is essentially a no-win situation for the platoon commander. And in presenting this situation, the movie could have had a real courtroom debate about the true nature of warfare.

Instead, the writers took the easy way out. Instead of actually exploring the question they posed in the Vietnam scenario, and taking it to its logical conclusion in Yemen (Marines were dying, and they had to get the snipers to abandon what they were doing), you get an obvious cheat: all the Yemenis were terrorists. And for that, what could have been a four-star flick, in my opinion, becomes two star fair (and only that based on the weight of the performances of Samuel Jackson and Tommy Jones).

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I think you're right. When they took away any ambiguity it became a black and white film.

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I'm watching it now for the first time, and I think it really is showing how politics and our political leaders are more corrupt than we'll ever know. What is happening in Iraq, and the lowest level of soldiers are being held accountable for decisions by the top.

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I don't really see this film being all that much about corruption of bureaurocrats and politicians. Jim Webb, a former Marine and Secretary of the Navy, came up with the story and it seems more focused on the second guessing of decisions made in combat - particularly when there are political ramifications. This would be a topic of particular interest to a Vietnam vet like Webb because the common complaint made by many vets is that the politicans did not actually let them fight the war as they saw fit.

As I said in my initial comments, where the movie falls down is instead of allowing for that storyline to play out, the writers take the cop-out and make all the Yemenis in the crowd terrorists.

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bump.

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I have mixed feelings about it. But the world would've been shocked if that tape had been copied and put in as evidence for the case against Childers.

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