I don't know if I will be able to deconfuse any of these issues, but let me give some theories.
"1) The classic "military base with a thousand exits". If you have a top-security facility, why do you have to pepper it with vents? How about half a dozen entry entry/exits that seal completely when the alarm goes off?"
Even top secret facilties will have numerous vents and such but I think he was exaggerating about a thousand exits. All of them should be secured with sensors and surveilance gear.
"2) If Spencer and his wife retains all memories of their lives, then why don't they remember being killed by the androids? Denial and repression mechanisms? Well, I know repression can be effective, but that's a bit over the top to forget. Unless the androids *modified* their memory but this is nowhere implied."
Well, I think it did work like you were suggesting, they just skipped the lengthy explaination for time's sake.
"3) Poor people control - why can't they just have a triple CIM chip/face recognition/infrared detector at every major street point? Spencer, lacking a CIM chip, would obviously be targetted immediately."
Expense may prohibit having triple security measure on every street corner, but who knows, they should have had some redundant security detector available. The CIM implant angle was added for the movie, in the short story there were no such implants. If the goal was to capture Impostors/Replicants I could see it failing alot, but if they were just out to capture those running around without CIMs then I guess it would be a feasible security measure.
"4) Irrationality by Spencer. He remembers how he freaked out when they were about to peel him open. Any rational person would from that deduce that "there's a limited possibility I'm a replicant". Any rational person would then simply hike out into the forest until the chancellor's visit is OVER. No seeing chancellor, no blowing up, happy fun."
No, becuase he "really" believed he was human and couldn't accept any logic that he may be an impostor, otherwise he violates his own ethos of seeking to destroy the enemy. Following this logic he would have to commit suicide and allow himself to be disassembled if he thought he was a replicant or was likely replicated.
"5) The biggest one - that Hathaway claims that bombs are completely undetectable until "the uranium flows together". Well bling me, there is nothing that is ever undetectable. You could even have done a body weight distribution check, as uranium is rather heavy. Unless the (undetectable) nano-bots made it anti-gravity uranium."
I don't really get this either, the whole "flows togther" thing doesn't gel right but that is what happens when your film goes from 30 minutes to more than 1 hours....I guess. Perhaps the uranium could have been equally distributed throughout his system as to not be noticeable by body weight check. How it would be indistingishable via radiological scans is beyond me, especially in the future when technology is bound to have better methods of radiation detection. But you know the plutonium pit of a nuclear bomb is small enough to hold in one hand and I think plutonium is heavier than uranium so in principle I don't think him having a radiological substance would make him alarmingly heavier than normal.
"5) If Spencer knows/believes that a molecular scan will reveal the truth, then why doesn't Hathaway simply scan him? Surely it must be better to occupy the scanning machine for half an hour every day, than peel open ten adult educated people with their families watching?"
I think Hathaway wanted to a method that assured that the Impostor would not be "chatty" long enough to possibley speak the trigger phrase and detonate. Nothing stops talkers quicker than vivasecting them. What bothers me is how Hathaway was so "sure" that Spencer was an Impostor, I mean what would he have done if he vivasected Spencer and he turned out to be real. Saying "Ooops" wouldn't have cut it, he just diced up the leading weapons designer in the war cadre for nothing. I guess they could have scanned them, and when the machine acted funky then they would have come to a conclusion that they were impostors or something and quietly euthanized them. I love how the PET scanner looked like the surgery bed from Logan's Run. But what makes even more sense is to scan him anyway. Why? Because PET scanners use a radionuclide solution that is normally injected into the patient, however, if he is suspect of being an Centauri Impostor Replicant then the uranium (of which Hathaway mentioned)that is supposed to be flowing inside him should be detected via the scanner in various sections of his body. Since normal humans are not in the habit of having radioactive elements in volitile quantities in their bodies, this should be a noticable.
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daryl-b-t
14 years ago
Old thread but I'll add to it
6) It's bad enough that aliens from another planet somehow were able know and clone two individual humans but what actually was the process of replacement? The clones fly the ship to earth, kill and take the place of the real people (including id chips) then what? Forget all this and think they are human??
7) As mentioned it beggars the imagination that there isn't some way of physically identifying them. Did the aliens have their dental records also? Simulate a lifetime of skin blemishes?
8) Initially when Spencer escapes to the outside and trips the id sensor the search moves out of the dome. When they don't find him they move back into the dome and search inside, despite the fact there is (initially) no id sensor evidence. What is the logic for doing this? Surely they'd still be looking outside as the most obvious place?
9) At the end Hathaway changes his mind about Spencer being a replicant. Why? There doesn't seem to be proper explanation. If it's just hunches maybe he shouldn't be so violent.
10) Without a doubt the most useless security forces on the planet. An alien ship crashes in a forest and they don't find it even though they know it has gotten through and it creates a fire at the time.
11) The aliens go to a lot of trouble but don't destroy their crashed ship and the vital evidence. Instead they rely on dumb luck.
12) It's okay to torture replicants indistinguishable from real people with real feelings because they were created by aliens. Tough.
13) Very fresh looking corpses in the spaceship. Hmmm.
14) How did the security forces bring all those men and the search lights to the forest without making a sound?
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ZoneFighter
11 years ago
He explained his change of mind, about who the imposter was. They translated more of the alien message, discovering the wife was an imposter. They just missed that both were.
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