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Question about MPAA *beep* and South Park...


"According to the film This Film Is Not Yet Rated (2006), Matt Stone said that the original idea for Cartman's mom's Internet video was of her having sex with a horse (but the act wouldn't be seen on screen). The MPAA would not allow this because of bestiality, despite the fact the at one point in the movie, a picture of a man having sex with a horse is seen. (When Dr. Vosknocker is trying to get Cartman attempt to swear and one of his flash cards is "horse *beep* So Matt Stone and Trey Parker decided to make the Internet video a German guy defecating on Cartman's mom, and the MPAA approved it."



Excuse me but, what the hell? Aside from how absurd this is, how is this even legal in the first place? How can these MPAA people just tell filmmakers what they can and can't put in their movie? I mean, this is just censorship, plain and simple.

I'm asking this out of curiousity (and a a lot of frustration as well) seeing as how a thing as the mpaa doesn't exist in my country (thank jesus, allah, whatever) and I'm just wondering how this is allowed to happen. Even after all these years.
How can Americans claim to have freedom of speech (seeing as how they're always bragging about it) when you got those morons telling filmmakers what they can and can't do.

Censorship, plain and simple.

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It's not that the MPAA wouldn't allow it, it's because with the original scene intact, they would have given the movie an NC-17 rating(which is the highest rating and usually bad for the box office).Paramount most likely wanted an R-rating because they wanted to make money, so they decided to replace the scene.

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"They would have given the movie an NC-17 rating(which is the highest rating and usually bad for the box office)"

So? This is still censorship, just in a much more subtle way. Surely the mpaa are aware of the enormous power they have.

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As is noted in "This film is not yet Rated" its not about them telling people what can or can't be in a film, its more about the rating. As is said in the film a NC-17 film effectivly kills a film with regards to advertising. The MPAA don't say you can't have it it's just that they suggest you can't have it but if you don't they will be forced to not rate it at all or give it a higher rating but film makers don't have to accept it if they don't wish too. I am not saying the MPAA is not *beep* up as from what I have seen they are but technically they give people the choice.

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Yet in the series we had cartman training a donkey to bite a penis off.

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Yeah, and to believe that as a kid I dreamed of being in the MPAA. I have now realized that they are a corrupt and ignorant group of people.

There is always a choice.

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The MPAA looked for ANY excuse to keep this movie from the theaters. They don't particularly take criticism very well (I'm not even a South Park fan--I just watched the movie because the premise alone made me laugh and I hate the MPAA and all those 'parent groups'), and even now after a rough battle to get it down to an R, the MPAA regrets maintaining its ruling of giving it an NC-17. The movie isn't even bad enough to warrant such a rating, but I guess the truth hurts.

It's legal because their Constitution states that their government can't suppress their freedom of speech (although that hasn't stopped them before, censoring movies themselves would be impossible to cover up), and the MPAA is not a government organization. They're just the self-appointed system that Hollywood adopted to keep their warped sense of morality in check. Even further is the fact that they don't generally 'force' filmmakers to cut their movies down if they give them an NC-17--their studios do, based on their contracts for an R-rated or PG-13-rated or whatever film. Filmmakers COULD go without editing, but since theaters are generally discouraged for showing NC-17-rated films for a number of reasons, including Kyle's *beep* *beep* *beep* of a *beep* Mom, filmmakers generally try to avoid such a rating (it would also mean less money due to being straight-to-DVD).

It's a very sneaky, shady system, but in that regard, those bastards have got it all figured out. Just thinking about it pisses me off, but that's the way it is until something better comes along.

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