I remember the show kept getting better and better and I couldn't wait for season 4 to start and as soon as episode 1 of season 4 started, the magic was noticeably gone within the very first minute.
When did the magic disappear for you?
I can't even get past season 4. Its beyond painful.
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You liked the episode with Madonna? That episode was too painful to watch. Madonna and her horrible acting, wait you can't even call it acting.
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I only watched the repeats; never big on the show! It just made no sense; the inconsiderateness, jealousy, and IQ points going up and down? That scene with Madonna was truly painful; esp. seeing Karen unable to deal with a can of Coke and a glass of ice! She acted clueless; come on she worked with her mom as a con artist! ;-)
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There's actually a thread about Madonna's appearance, and many think she did well,..to me she looked she was doing a high school play, I felt bad for Megan Mulally..
shareOf course many think she did well, most W&G fans are gay and most gays defend Madonna no matter what. I'm a 'fan', but the woman is one of the worst actresses ever and couldn't even handle a guest starring role on W&G.
I think the magic disappeared when Grace met Leo. That's when the comedic chemistry between she and Will fizzled out and it was never the same again.
I think it ended as soon as season 4 started and Woody HArrelson was her love interest. It seems like they were grasping at any jokes and we already know Will & Grace weren't the funny ones so to see Jack & Karen grasping at any nonsense to make the audience laugh was tragic.
In all reality, how much longer could they have carried the stereotypical jokes.
I enjoy most of Season 4, but I agree that that is where it started to wear thin. There's a few great episodes after that (Season 6's Last Ex to Brooklyn), but mostly everything else is unwatchable.
Your message can suck it.
I am having a W&G marathon and cannot even get past season 4. I think i only have 6 more episodes before season 5 and i truly don't think i can make it.
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Wow I'm really surprised by this and the general consensus on this thread that Season 4 is awful, as to me, it was the last consistently funny season of Will and Grace. Season 5 I thought was really, really bad and the show felt very different. I couldn't put my finger on it until I mentioned it on another forum and someone said they got an overhaul and changed all the writers in Season 5.
There are 27 episodes in Season 4 and having looked through them on Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_%26_Grace_(season_4)#Episodes) and read through the synopsis for each and I like 21 out of 27 of them. I looked through Season 5 and I like 6 out of 24 episodes. For Season 6 I only like 1 episode and that is the one guest starring Mira Sorvino.
Season 4 the show wasn't as funny and they needed less well known guest stars.
shareSeason Four is when things started getting shaky, but there was still some good stuff there. I liked Nathan a lot so I was fine with his episodes, and I think it was realistic to have Grace take the breakup so hard. Also, A Chorus Lie is one of my favorite episodes. Matt Damon's "rockin' a$$!" line was hysterical. After that, things started going south, and Leo sent it on the express train to hell in a hand basket.
"Two gin and Frescas"
"Shaken, not ridiculed"
Season 6 for me. It started to fizzle out during Season 5, but, besides Last Ex to Brooklyn, Season 6 killed it, and Season 7 buried it in cement.
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shareI think season 4 was still brilliant, but had some bad episodes in it (the garden gnome, the will's parents anniversary, etc).
I honestly believe that people are exaggerating their comments on seasons 5 to 8 because not all episodes were consistently brilliant as the first three seasons. If you have to separate seasons, I'd say 7 - 8 are the weakest (although still great). For me the problem was when they started writing and directing Karen and Jack as absolute caricatures; moreso Karen. The Karen we see in season 7 and 8 would have the "first" Karen roll her eyes the way she did Grace's boyfriend Josh.
Yeah I tend to not watch season 7 or 8 and just skip right to the finale.
I also feel like Will and Grace became old, grumpy, or just flat out mean to each other. I understand some of the insults were for comedic effect but I just don't find insults funny when they became so harsh. At least when Karen or Jack did insults in the beginning, it was witty and light-hearted.
Season 4 has the best episode of the entire series: A Chorus Lie
Season 5 was when it started going south
This was my favorite show for years then it got to be painful. Will & Grace became spiteful and just plain mean to each other. Marriage & babies always ruin a good show. 'Seinfeld' got it right by not doing the marriage & baby thing. Also waaaaay to many celebrity guest stars. The two I watch over & over are Sandra Bernhard & Cher.
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