books to movies


I've just taken a look through some of the comments about this film and I have a couple of things to say,
1. I ignored this movie because of the high regard I have for Cormac McCarthy's books and because Matt Damon was in it and BillyBob directed it.
This was before I developed an appreciation for both of them. I had the same problem with Brad Pitt. I thought he was just another pretty boy flavor of the month who was getting shots he didn't deserve. Then I saw 12 Monkeys.

2. Books to movies is and will always be a source of contention among movie fans. Was it true to the book? Was it a good movie? Did the Producer's or Director's compromises make the movie version of a great book suck? I had a theater director say to me what I heard an actor and film director say " We're not making the book!" I said to all three: "Then write your own story!"
They looked at me like i was the confused one.
To take a popular book and turn it into a "successful" film is, in my opinion, more difficult than writing a good movie and making it. Unless you decide to think that moviegoers are less intelligent than book readers. This is a recent development for people of my age. In the forties and fifties, producers were not afraid to take a literary piece and film the story as it was written. Some were so honest (at least about the prospects of making money by filming the story as told) that they chose not to do it. Those of us who revel in the advent of special effects giving us filmed versions of books we could never have seen in the past are waiting, hoping we don't die before it comes out.
Jackson gave us the rings. for which we will be ever grateful.
But even he admits that he couldn't do the whole book. Many of us wanted to see Tom Bombadil. And the scouring of the Shire.
But, no complaints from me. God, he gave us so much.

Last Mohican was improved by the script.
The Scarlet Letter was profaned by the happy ending.
Slaughterhouse Five was, in my opinion, the best book to film conversion I ever saw.
Catch 22 was another i thought worthy of praise.
There are many more but not many recent.

My point is that McCarthy's books will not be easy, and by the box office reception of this one, not likely, to be brought to the screen. Which is a shame, because his books are dense, complicated, real stories about the west.
if you like to read, if you like really good writing, then read Blood Meridian, or The Redness In The West. If you like westerns, or just great writing, it is intense, and the most likely object of a script, which I figure is being passed around Hollywood right now, trying to find a director who has read it and one who can do it without adding a car chase.
Here is my pitch to both producers and possible book fans:
this is the story of a group of beads cowboys (think wild bunch)who are hired by the Mexican government to hunt down and kill Indians who are raiding their northern territories. the riders do a good job but then realize that they won't get paid once the Indians are gone. then they realize that Mexican villager scalps look just the same as Indian scalps.

Imagine the cast…


My point is, most of the complaints I've here are more related to not understanding the book, than to bad movie making.













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McCarthy’s western novels were informed by film. McCarthy had seen the Wild Bunch and it was most probably on his mind as he wrote Blood Meridian. The film that I would most compare Blood Meridian too is The (original) Texas Chainsaw Massacre . . . simply because it lacks narrative and becomes onslaught of horror. I don’t think any major studio will ever make Blood Meridian as it should be: an extreme terror (literally) interspaced with Emerson-esq dialogue form the bald albino Judge. Dont get me wrong . . . it is the greatest book written in the last 40 years. However . . . it is a holocaust.

Just as ‘All The Pretty Horses’ was re-cut to assure Americans or men or cowboys of a kind of moral assurance. When, in truth, the book leaves us quite stranded and lost in a (post)modern condition. John Grady wanted to be a cowboy so bad . . . the problem was that he was probably more familiar with the cowboy of the 50’s cinema than the reality of world, and certainly of the third world.

Just some thoughts.

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Fight Club was the best book to movie adaptation I've ever seen. The movie is just as good if not better than the book.

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I was browsing round the board on this movie, 'cause i just saw it and was not really impressed, I bet the book was something else. It just left a funny taste in my mouth, actually no taste at all.
But I did want to agree on you about Fight club. I must admit I saw the movie before I read the book and I found both to be great. The movie is one of my all time favourites and also the book was just so easy to read. I loved the fact that most of the things that were in the script were actually taken from the book, although they were taken from different episode than the ones they were used for in the movie. I just thought it was brilliant.

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Cormac McCarthy is the greatest living writer....IMHO. And I think that John Grady Cole WAS a cowboy....if you ever read the book it is clearly evident. My feeling is that for him to live the life that he wanted and fantasized about he was born about a hundred years too late...but then that's why the book was written.

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John Cole was def a cowboy.... he even returns in another of McCarthy's books

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I agree that Fight Club is a great adaptation but better than the book? No way. I've read the book many times and it's just too much to put on film. The movie is outstanding as-is, though.


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Fight Club was Extremely well done, I agree. They used extraordinary visualization techniques all through Fight Club and tricks you could never pull off in a book. Namely the subliminal things that you dont notice the first time consciously so much, but on repeated viewings these simiing little "glitches" all make perfect sense. Like the sudden few frames of Pitt popping into existence out of nowhere portraying how Pitt was in the fringes of Norton's mind all the time.
The one thing lacking was the excellent ending of the book which was a perfect tie-in to a sequel, and made a bit more sense, than the neat little bow set at the end of the film.

Shawshank Redemption is another PERFECT, entepretation of a great book / novella from Stephen King. (First story of The Four Season's)

Silence of the Lambs was great
Misery excellent
The Harry Potter films. Well most of them.
Pet Cemetery, great
Dangerous Liasons, better than the book
LOTR - I actually thought the films were quite a bit better than the books other than Elija Woods potrayal of Frodo.
Salem's Lot (newer version) ya another Stephen King. Its amazing how many of his books have been made into movies, and alot of them are very well adapted like:
Firestarter
Dream Catcher
Carrie
The Storm of the Century, which to be fair was written as a screenplay from the start.
1984 was very very well done too in film.





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For my first book that was turned into a movie I was so naive I let 'em write the screenplay without interference on my part. (BTW, I write novels under a couple male names, though I am 'actually' Violet Weed as herein identified).
I never made that mistake again.
For my last book which is going to be a movie sometime in the next year (perhaps two) I am (as usual for my books of the past 25 years), also its screenwriter.
As for this movie, All the Pretty Horses, I liked it, but I have not read the book from which it was derived. For the past 20 years I have not read a work of fiction other than my other books. I prefer non-fiction and have written several university-level non-fiction books too. My last book is one of those. It is a story about a man who was raised by 'distracted parents'. Distracted because there older son was kidnapped when he was seven years old. He did not return to the family until he was a young teenager. In the years that son was gone, the parents were focused on looking for him, and did not pay much attention to their younger son. Fast forward 20 years, the younger son was a young adult ... but also a serial killer. That's all I'll give you. I knew the story for 15 years before I wrote the book, partly because I wasn't 'ready' to write a book of that sort: real life murder mystery, but also because I just 'assumed' it had been a 'tv movie' that I had somehow missed.
At any rate, I liked this movie, although it was a little on the 'lightweight' side over all, but so many movies are. It was also surprisingly good, because I did not have high expectations from Mr. Thornton, nor from Matt Damon. I don't know if Matt is a good actor or good at following direction.
Well back to my current book, a hui hou!

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