How was Kell most powerful?


This has been talked about alot when an immortal takes anothers quickening they gain their knowledge and power and become stonger. Strong as in phyisicaly stonger or can resist pain more or move with more skill and grace in battle? Can they actually use the knowledge of the immortal that they've absorbed? I could see when Kell fought he was like a killing machine(he moved real fast). Is that what made him the most powerful immortal?

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He the most logged kills. Which gave him alot of power.

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But most of those were because he broke the rules by taking the others head without a fight.

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Yeah, he was a real baaaad guy. You should check out the official Highlander website. Those people on those chat boards are very good with info.

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yep Kell was a super bad ass.
He had the most kills therefore
more power.

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But do you think he was like a killing machine when he fought Connor and Duncan?

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I wanna know how many kills Methos has, you'd think after 5000 years he'd have more than 600

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He probably does, but he hadn't been in many battles in a very long time. Immortals, just like mortals it seems, need to practice to keep their skills honed. He might have more power, but he wouldn't have been as sharp in battle. Just a theory.

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IMHO, I think perhaps while Methos was in the Watcher's he fudged the humbers to make himself seem less threatening.

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bump.

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bump.

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Apparently you also gain the power that the Highlander you killed had. Which is why Duncan was strong enough to kill Kell, basically combining the kills of himself and Connor.

To which I wonder if that means most of Kell's kills were actually weaker Hihglanders. Or a mix, in which both Duncan and Connor had a combination of stronger kills.

Which one would assume means that Duncan is pretty much a god and could NEVER be beaten.

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Well my thing is that this movie sucks, the first one established that the kurgan was the strongest so there for conner would be in theory by defeating him which would render it pointless to give duncan his power if he could defeat him, himself.

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Well, having Duncan gives the show's characters legitimacy, so all his quickenings would have given him more strength and knowledge, plus all you would assumedly acquire the essence of those immortals within those you killed, which was indicated in the show. Therefore, MacLeod would have the essence/life force of the following immortals that were indicated has having great knowledge, power, or fighting skill, or were of extremely old age:

Timothy of Gilliam
Walter Reinhardt
Grayson
Xavier St.Cloud
Hamza al-Kahir
Nefertiri
Luther
Rebecca Horne
Martin Hyde
Pierre Segur
Paul Karros
Brian Cullen
Lyman Kurlow
May Ling Shen (from M.Christian)
Kalas
Paul
Timon
Paul Kinman
Kamir
Coltec
Sean Burns
Damon Case
Roland Kantos
Haresh Clay
Graham Ashe
Caspian
Kronos
Otavio Consone
Lord Byron
Then, he kills Connor and has:
Connor MacLeod
Kurgan
Juan Ramirez
Sunda Kastigir
Aman Fasil

Sorry, but I fail to see how, if you're going to be consistent to the storyline, that Kell could possibly have a stronger essence than Duncan. Just considering the fighting prowess of some of those guys on that list (Ashe, Ramirez, Kurgan, Kamir, Clay, Kronos, Consone, Kinman, Cullen, Hyde, Grayson, May-Ling), I find it hard to believe that if Kell was taking so many heads, that he was getting quality instead of quantity.

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Even Duncan never took the headcount too seriously. He killed many immortals that were older and had racked up more kills than him. Even Ritchie killed much older immortals. What about that kid who was 800 years old and taken alot of heads. It sure didn't help him since he had the body of a 12 year old.

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Because he gained so much power from killing Immortals, he killed the most of them. Even in the end fight between Duncan and Kell, Kell was more powerful, but Ducnan actually won more by luck. We know how powerful Connor was, so Connot+ Duncan still weren't powerful as Kell. Duncan did kill older Immortals than himself and they might be more powerful at the time, but sometimes if the difference in power is not too much, the skills can make a difference and Duncan and Connor were, if not most skilled (and in time became one of the most powerful also, especially Connor). But Kell was so powerful that on their own they didn't stand a chance, their skills didn't help, even their combined power wasn't enough without pretty much luck.

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I wanna know how many kills Methos has, you'd think after 5000 years he'd have more than 600


Welll... here's the thing. That's probably not an unreasonable number.

In at least one of the books associated with the series that focuses on Methos its implied that there were very few immortals initially. Combine this with the lack of efficient transport (I.E horses, foot, or maybe carts) available in the 'good 'ol days',which would further limit contact between immortals and the fact that at least later in life he would quite literally run from a fight that he would likely win rather than risk his life in a pointless fight where he could either win or slip on a cow turd and die its kind of possible.

Then again there are the Horsemen days. Presumably they came across a fair number of immortals. I would imagine that Kronos would tend to take the Quickenings for himself or else assign them to various Horsemen since they 'shared everything'. Personally I think he had more kills and like the other poster said tweaked the numbers (among other things) while he was skulking about as Adam Pierson.

Basically pretty much everything he says or does must be taken with a grain of salt. His driving force is survival. (Possibly first or second to his apparent desire to keep Duncan alive and healthy enough - mentally at least- to win the prize or at least keep evil immortals from claiming it.)

Duncan MacLeod: You're an a--hole.
Methos: I never said I was deep.

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he had more power but if you remember he got most of his kills from beheading immortals that are sleeping. He's just a big puss.

like a knockout boxer with a glass jaw

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when an immortal takes another ones head, that immortal gains their knowledge and strength. not in the literal sense that if u killed a master of martial arts, that youd then receive all their skills.but instead you receive the knowledge of it and your soul and essence in effect becomes powerful. sort of like a boost of energy. which we see happen with Duncan in the final battle, when Connor's essence sort of jumps in and gives Duncan a bit of an edge. because we see Duncan give it his all. and just when u think hes down, he puts his last effort in and still that wasnt enough. so right there he was beaten, but having taken Connor's head, he was given yet another last effort. and thats what had him win the battle.

yeah Kell moved quite quick and seemed to hit pretty hard. which im sure was intentional, to make it seem like Duncan had truly met his match. since he always won a fight on the series.
what was intended in Kell being labeled as the supernatural enemy. was that he was driven by anger. and wanted revenge on Connor MacLeod for killing his surrogate father and making him immortal.
that anger is what made him go thru the centuries ignoring the rules of the Game and taking heads by the 100s. which is intended to be a very high count compared to other immortals who are evil or much older.
so that is what made Jacob Kell such a big threat.
cause he broke the rules and had his rogue immortals defeat the immortals for him. he was a man without fear and without remorse.
while an immortal like Kurgan just liked being bad, Kell had his reasons. which was to have him and Connor MacLeod be the last two immortals in existence. and then taking Connor's head.

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Well said, all of it.

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