I just watched The Source and Duncan tells his new wife that Kate is dead. He doesn't say how, but I think its fair to say that it was because of Jacob Kell cutting her head off. I think they did this because the actress didnt want to reprise her role. Im glad because A.) I didnt like Kate. and B.) I didnt like the new ending. It felt too forced of trying to be a going home happy ending.The original, depressing ending was better.
shareIf you watched the whole movie of Endgame you will see in the end of it that Kate is still very much alive. Jacob Kell did not take her head. She was going by the name of Faith in Endgame when we first saw her but at the end when Duncan beats Jacob they show him back where he and Kate/Faith first were and Duncan calls her by Faith and she said "I am going to try Kate for a while" or something like that. They do get back together. And in the source they do not say how Kate died and that was my question to. How did she die? They left that one out. And also at the end of The Source Duncan gets the greatest gift from The Source...that of a child with his wife. Does that mean he is no longer immortal or was that a gift of the source? Anyone??
shareDuncan is mortal since he apparantly won The Prize and became the One. Immortals cannot bear children, remember?
I'm saying the original, theatrical ending is canon because Kate is dead in the new film and Duncan does not specify how she died. Which leads me to believe that the "new ending" didn't take place otherwise we have a continuity problem since they apparantly got back together at the end of the film and knowing the kind of guy Duncan is, he would find and kill the man who killed his wife. Seeing how they left it ambiguous, I'm going with the original version since that sappy, horrible excuse for an extended ending was added at the last minute.
I agree, there was no reason why Caleb would kill his useful henchmen and let Kate live. He wanted ALL their quickenings. Also, why did none of them put up a fight? Had he drugged the wine or something?
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Except in "The Source" Duncan says he has watched the women he loved die...
He wasn't there when Kate/Faith was killed (going by the theatrical version).
Then again he wasn't there when Tessa was killed either (though I guess he holds her limp body in his arms, so maybe she was breathing her last, I don't recall).
I just assumed they were saying she died offscreen in the 10-15 years between Endgame and The Source.
It was cheap either way, to introduce yet another love interest (and yet another wife) and kill off yet another newly introduced character.
I found it annoying that they would kill off both Connor and Joe, but leave Methos alive (simply because the fangirls and gay fanboys can't imagine their lives without this fictional character surviving forever... so they can't even show HIM dying and have to leave it open!).
If The Source is true of course, Connor died for nothing.
Anyway, let's forget the Source, except to say that regardless of which version of Endgame you consider to be "definitive"... the next movie assures us that Kate is DEAD.
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I got the impression their group was like a Cult, and they willingly gave up their lives for their spiritual leader. There was a deep spiritual connection between them all which I don't think was developed well. Maybe they felt they would go to a higher place then the prize would offer.
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I always thought it was because Jacob was too powerful for them to fight
shareWhen you cast Donnie Yen as a character in your movie your insulting everyone's intelligence by not having him fight somebody no matter how powerful they are in the movie.
The rough cut of the movie, at least showed him not wanting to fight Kell directly by yen's character planting his own sword in the wall and killing himself by running into his bladed weapon and thus denying him his Quickening!
This was eliminated as Dawson had earlier showed Duncan MacLeod the heads Jacob Kell had taken over the centuries including one of his own recent gang members which was up to; 661. The count then went up to 666 after he killed the remaining 5 immortal warriors at the dinner table! But like i said a fight between Yen's character and Bruce Payne's Kell would've have been believable considering Donnie Yen's real life skills with a sword. Adrian Paul can fight onscreen in a believable fashion and can go on par with Donnie Yen, but not Bruce Payne though.
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Jin-Ke was a man of honor. he followed Kell because he believed in the man's quest for justice.
the omitted scene with Jin taking his own head was also done because he was a man of honor. he wanted to die by his own sword instead of being killed without a fight. he did not deny his Quickening. it still went to Kell. it was the matter of how he was beheaded that is the focus. the scene was cut because the effects just didnt look realistic enough.
on the contrary, Bruce Payne knew how to fence and thats why they took a shine to him playing the villain. because he knew how to handle a sword.
the reality was that the film was rushed and had a low budget. with Donnie Yen being the fight choreographer, they could have done some really great fights aside from the Attack at the Loft sequence. but they were limited on time & money. Highlander's main focus was never the fight sequences, it was always the drama and the inner conflicts with each immortal. so makes sense theyd look over doing spectacular fight scenes if the budget doesnt allow it.