This always bugged me. That scene at the end is nice(save for the shoddy greenscreen) the music is perfect and the little tombstone is sweet and all, but the sword not being there is a missed opportunity. Of course the chances of it still being there would be slim, but it WAS there just a few years earlier in part 3.
I understand the continuity is all wonky and it's not THAT important. But it always just kind of irked me a little bit.
i assume the claymore is all rusted and falling apart. i like to think Duncan put the sword by Connor's corpse when he buried him in the ground. makes sense he got rid of it since theres now the tombstone with the writing indicating Connor is buried beside Heather.
at the end of The Sorcerer you see the claymore is all brown and aged. so maybe it was in worse shape by the time of Endgame. which is supposedly 2002. or maybe early 2003, since the events take place during Christmas time.
Riiiight but, it lasted like 400 years! A few more ruined it?
And I of course realize there are plenty of plausible explanations for why it wasn't there, I'm just curious as to why creatively it wasn't. Again, the previously established it being there in part 3, and it's featured clearly in Endgame being driven into the ground.
It just seems like a fairly obvious little homage/full circle moment that was totally missed.
heh. well Highlander 3 is not in the continuity. so by that you were never supposed to have seen the sword there in the 90s.
i can only assume that Duncan wanted a tombstone made for both Connor and Heather. the Claymore was just a way of marking her grave, but with Connor now buried beside her, perhaps Duncan thought a tombstone would do it justice instead of the Claymore.
i would have been fine having the claymore there but how would the audience know that Connor was buried beside her? one would assume from the flashback they gave us, that Duncan is visiting just Heather. would make no sense. so i think from a creative standpoint, they felt the need to remove the sword and put the tombstone.
I wish Peter Davis would go and get Highlander 1, 3 and 4 and make a trilogy out of them that removes all continuity issues, he could even call them "HIGHLANDER: THE CONTINUITY TRILOGY". Jsut an idea...
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You said you have a workprint of the film with the trailer scenes in it. If Kell stops the Clan MacLeod sword in mid-air in present day, wouldn't that explain why the Clan MacLeod sword is no longer at Heather's grave? Perhaps this workprint explains this issue....
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so maybe it was in worse shape by the time of Endgame. which is supposedly 2002.Sorry. That is a crappy retcon Davis/Panzer did once fans pointed out the continuity error with the TV series. Endgame was clearly originally meant to be set in the year 2000. If it wasn't, the subtitle would have said "2002" instead of "Present Day."
well they goofed sure. i mean its not the same writers as on the show. Panzer and Davis aren't exactly experts in every detail of the series.
but for me PRESENT DAY just meant in contemporary times. i never took it as this movie starts taking place on September 1st 2000.
especially since the film originally takes place in December around Christmas time both in the '10 years ago' opening and then in the 'present day'.
so if they say hey its 10 years AFTER we saw Connor leaving Duncan & Tessa on the island..then for me its 10 years after that, which makes it 2002. which makes the opening flashback of the film (not including theatrical) with Duncan meeting Connor New York in December of 1992.
it wouldnt make sense to the casual viewer for it to say '2002', especially if they have not seen the first episode of the television series. 'present day' sits better compared to say ' sometime in the near future' or 'December 2002'. the current date doesnt really have any significance unless the viewer watched the first season of the series or the entire series for that matter. the director made it very clear that he wanted to have viewers who were not familiar with the franchise, to watch the movie and understand whats going on. which is why a lot of exposition is told to us , even though fans already know the details.
i mean Season Six opens up at 'the end of the millenium' with Duncan facing the devil. thatd make Endgame take place around the time of Season Six.
it gets confusing to set it in the year 2000.
so if they say hey its 10 years AFTER we saw Connor leaving Duncan & Tessa on the island.That's not stated in the movie itself. That would make more sense if someone who actually knew the canon wrote the movie. Unfortunately, that's not the case.
it gets confusing to set it in the year 2000.I know. Unfortunately, the makers of the movie did just that.
That's not stated in the movie itself. That would make more sense if someone who actually knew the canon wrote the movie. Unfortunately, that's not the case.
I know. Unfortunately, the makers of the movie did just that.