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Coach was NOT racist

posted 10 years ago by fuhgeddaboutit01
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The black kid claimed the coach was racist but was there any evidence of this other than his say so....?

1) We know the coach was all about winning at any cost, so if he had some more/good black players available he would have played them

2)It was made clear the coach liked a running game. Hence wide receiver not getting many touchdown passes as easier/safer for team to bulldoze it into the end zone.

3) If the coach didn't care about the players, why would he bother to boost one kids stats (to get him into a top college) at the expence of another player? Surely he'd do whatever was best to get the win for his team.

Perhaps the black kid was just bitter that the QB was going to a top program. He was also perhaps a bit deluded, thinking he was good enough to go to Texas A&M when only a minor school interested.
Wouldn't be the only kid to think they're good enough to play at elite schools just because they're a good player in their tiny town, but compared to players in the rest of the country, they're only average.

[–] gabby_bm 10 years ago

His complaint was that he felt used- he was the coach's workhorse, gaining all the yardage, but denied the touchdowns in favor of another receiver or a running back. There's no way of telling whether he was a racist or not, or whether his decisions were based on the WR's race.

but when a wide receiver has all this yardage on his stats and only two TD's all season, I can see why he might think that. And such a skewed stat would definitely have some bearing on his recruitment value as well.

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[–] loki242 9 years ago

The black kid claimed the coach was racist but was there any evidence of this other than his say so....?

Who needs proof? You call white folks racist and they are trained to retreat. Truth and proof have no place in it.

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[–] oubrioko 9 years ago

2)It was made clear the coach liked a running game. Hence wide receiver not getting many touchdown passes as easier/safer for team to bulldoze it into the end zone.

You just made that up.

[–] zender8584 9 years ago

Maybe I need to watch it again but...

The black kid was a running back, not a receiver. He ground out all the yards and then when they were in a goal-to-go situation, the coach would call the QBs number or a pass play to a white WR. He did mention that the only time he'd score is if he broke a longer run over 20 yards.

From the games they did show, those short scoring TDs went to Scott Caan's character who seemed more like a slot receiver, Wes Welker type, than a prototypical wideout.

Anyway, the black kid had a case. If they're a run-first team, you'd at least try to score on the ground some of the time. On the other hand, any college scout that knows what they're doing could see the talent is there just in getting all those yards and noticing in the stats that he has no carries in goal-to-go situations.

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[–] oubrioko 9 years ago

You do not need to watch again. Your memory serves you well.

[–] dl4060 8 years ago

Zender8584 is correct on all counts.

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[–] dl4060 8 years ago

2)It was made clear the coach liked a running game. Hence wide receiver not getting many touchdown passes as easier/safer for team to bulldoze it into the end zone.

You posted this in a different thread and I replied there, so I won't reply completely here, but Wendell was a running back not a receiver. Kilmer's reliance on running the ball should lead to lots of TD's for a running back.

[–] anblq10 8 years ago

The other complaint that people didn't mention was that the coach was not helping the running back at all when it came to getting him a football scholarship. He implied that the coach was willing to help out others with a letter or phone call but was not helping him out and how his mother was the one having to get scouts to come watch her son play.

[–] manbat33 8 years ago

He threw a hint of racism at him when he called him boy after Wendell complained about his knee hurting.

[–] daveyh (641) 4 years ago

as an aside, in reference to your 2nd point, it never made any sense to me that they'd be a running team when they had an all state QB. And this isn't viewers mis-interpreting it as a running game, because Kilmer even goes as far as to chastise mox and ram this point home during practice.