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How was this society's fault?


He failed on his own merits.
He chose to get a boring job.
He chose to get things on Credit.
He chose to not pick a normal hobby.
He chose to avoid normal relationships.
He chose to burn down his apartment.

Maybe society should help him with his insomnia, but it can only do so much when you're an unstable human being for the start.

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I mean, that's what the movie is telling us.

Nobody is saying society is completely at fault except for Tyler and his brainless cult....and the movie is telling us Tyler/Narrator is psycho and his brainless cult is brainless.

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If that was what the movie was trying to communicate, it did a bad job doing so considering the reviews of the movie.

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If you think we're supposed to be siding with Tyler's mentality, you failed at understanding the movie.

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The movie clearly made Tyler at bare minimum a tragic villain.

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So even if granted that.... who are you asking your post to?

We, the audience, understand all of that. The movie tells us that.

The ending literally has our guy conquering this worldview from his life.

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No the audience doesn't. Either the audience thinks he's "le Chad capitalism destroyer" or "le unapologetic man".

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In the decades since this movie has been out, people have, on a whole, realized that Tyler's worldview isn't what is being preached. Tyler preached it, but not the film, or the films message.

There have been countless articles breaking this down. For years. It's old news.

Really, nobody is beating the Tyler drum at face value except for a couple of outlier mouth breathers who, again, completely missed the point. But you'll have that with any movie.



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This is cope. The movie does a terrible job making Tyler an actual bad guy. It constantly makes him sympathetic, Charismatic and does things people would find cool rather than abhorrent (such as running an underground fighting ring and destroying the loan/credit system). It's clearly a capitalism BAD movie that questions societal conduct of things.

It's so ridiculous that movies like this get infinite charitability and that we just assume the author is "on the right side" because he's supposedly a good person.

If I write an incoherent essay with holes in the logic, then it's a bad essay.
If I make an incoherent movie with holes in the logic, then it's a masterpiece.

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Nah. How is Tyler sympathetic? And for some reason, you equate charisma with not being a bad guy? That's like the #1 answer on a family feud board on cult leader tropes lol.

You can make all sorts of justifications on why you don't think Tyler is the villian on a superficial level or why you think the movie doesn't make him one. You're completely open to that interpretation/opinion. But villians don't need to check off some list of mustache twirling tropes and cliches in your head in order to make them villians.

Fact still remains that he is the villain. The movie is not taking his stance. That's the entire point of the movie. I'm sorry you're trying so hard to rationalize the opposite n order to insist that people are somehow going to answer your OP in earnest because for some reason they think Tyler is right. Movie does a great job. Me and a few million movie-watchers aren't wrong. Your opinion on that is irrelevant.

Again, by the end of the movie, everyone understands he's wrong. Your OP is preaching to the choir.

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Sounds like the point of the movie flew right over your head.

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