I just saw he is listed as an uncredited director for this (not that bad)movie. I can imagine Walter Hill and Coppola knowing each other, but does anyone know what exactly Coppola did, and why he was left uncredited?
Just in case you have not noticed it yet, one of the trivia facts may answer your question:
"Reportedly, this was shelved for some time by the studio, and upon its release it was reported that the studio, extremely unhappy with Walter Hill's completed product, called in Francis Ford Coppola to "re-edit" the film."
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It had been actually re-edited? How bad could the original have been???! I mean even the theatrical one sucked big time.
that explains why the editing was so bad. re-edited movies never really work since the editors have to work with whats left after cutting as it is.
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The movie was re-edited, as well as being heavily reshot, by several directors after Hill before being unleashed on the public in its most heavily chopped-up and trimmed-down form.
Due to the advent of DVD technoolgy and a market for alternate versions, this may be a thing of the past. But at the time, when the studio thought a movie wouldn't sell, they would occassionally turn to the tactic of bringing someone in (usually an editior rather than a director like Coppola) to heavily re-edit the film using their notes. In this case, Coppola edited and there were re-shoots. Then, of course, the studio had the movie trimmed down to save money on costly film stock.
It's the idea of the studios that if a movie is not going to make money (by their estimation), then they will cut the movie down to nearly 90 minutes just to save money on how much it costs to print off the film. But, at the same time, this hamstrings the movie and guarantees that it will never do well, as you've just carved the meat from the movie...
Thanks a lot for your reply, I got my question answered and actually feel like watching this again now...
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"It's the idea of the studios that if a movie is not going to make money (by their estimation), then they will cut the movie down to nearly 90 minutes just to save money on how much it costs to print off the film."
Say what now??
You're telling me that a major studio like MGM would lop minutes off a movie because of how much they'll save on striking new prints?!
Sorry but I'm just not buying that.
The big reason to cut a movie down is so that theaters can squeeze in an extra show per screen each day.
shareFrustrating. This was about 75% of a great sci-fi movie. It's so evident that there was post-production studio meddling. I'd love to see the original vision. But as someone has already pointed out, once the post-production tinkering process starts to happen, the whole thing is terminally hamstrung. Too bad. I liked that Spader, Basset and Tunney really committed.
It's so sad. The deleted scenes on the DVD are very interesting, and if put in, would have made for a better film.
Weird that they were cut out.
Supernova has some of the best deleted/alternative scenes I've seen. You could see what the film makers were originally going for, and how the studio managed to mess it up.
That said, I still like the movie.
Yeah very new reply to an OLD post...
But Supernova came out in an article as "A BAD MOVIE"...
As I've told people, watching all the deleted scenes and more proper ending - the movie is much better and makes more sense. The acting was fine, the effects are good, etc etc...
Just have to put all those scenes back in to fix the movie...
There was also at a very early stage and Australian director called Geoffrey Wright attached as director. He pulled out due to script issues. A wise move it would seem...
shareAccording to what I've read, Coppola was brought in to re-edit. Originally the script was sort of like HellRaiser In Space,...(which sound's to me like Event Horizon) but this might have had a shot with a warmer script, a different actor playing the villain, I picture Ethan Hawke in the role myself, etc. but oh woe;...the studio came to chop up the show!
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