Black Confederates
I know this is a film forum and not a history forum. But, was there such a thing as black Confederates during the Civil War? Or was the character Holt just a storyline?
shareI know this is a film forum and not a history forum. But, was there such a thing as black Confederates during the Civil War? Or was the character Holt just a storyline?
share Throughout the war there were scattered numbers of black Confederates. Most of the time they were slaves of officers or enlisted men who went to war with them and were not actually enlisted. There was a debate throughout the war on whether slaves should be armed in excahnge for their freedom, but it wasn't until February 1865 that they got deperate enough to try it. Very few black units were raised and only a handful saw combat (though there are revisionists out there who will try to tell you that tens of thousands of blacks fought as Confederate soldiers.)
Holt is a believable character - the guerillas had very few rules (as the term applies to the regular military) and I would not doubt that the occasional black guerilla was in existence.
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Right thanks! Because I'd never heard of black Confederates until I saw Holt-and then wondered if he was for real.
shareOne of the men who rode with William Clark Quantrill to the Lawrence raid, which is depicted in this movie, was John Toland, who was a black confederate spy.
The majority of Confederate soldiers did not want black troops, although thousands offered to join throughout the conflict.
Despite never being offical becuase many in the Confederate government were as timid as the Union government over the realities of the war and didn't want Blacks to serve in their army, it often took place. Many generals ignored the wishes of their government and hired Blacks as soldiers,etc. They also paid them equal wages, something the 54th of Mass had to fight for. If the Confederacy had more time ,they would have offically allowed Blacks in their army. Those that want to claim the Confederate flag is a symbol of treason and racism have a serious problem when it comes to bigotry and hatred of anything different.
shareA site I found that was a great help in the research of Black Confederates (and other minority Confederates) is http://37thtexas.org/html/BlkHist.html
shareOh they had them its just its not widely taught in history anymore. You have to sometimes do searches on your own.
Think of it as a Woman would never allow another to be assualted it happens.
That sort of thing. It's Ugly but its History.
Also, because of the lingering influence of the French, there was relatively a lot more freedom for African-Americans in New Orleans than anywhere else in the south. There were even a handful of black architects and lawyers. (It's a long, complicated story but a lot of it had to do with the fact that many rich white men kept black mistresses and went on to support their second set of children).
When the war started, the African-American middle class formed their own militia regiment called the Native Guard. They never saw action but a lot of them switched sides when the city fell and went on to fight for the Union.
this may be hard to swallow for some people ...the vast majority of black people in the south were free......and there are actual documented accounts of free Blacks in the south who actually owned slaves in Tennessee and Louisana..believe it or not!
shareThere were a handful of blacks who owned slaves, true.
There were also free blacks. But the "vast majority" were enslaved, not free. In fact one could say that the "overhwelming majority" were enslaved...
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It's true that some blacks(very few) owned slaves, but the rest of your post is slander made up by the KKK
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