Taboo Civil War topics


Some 150 years have passed since the trauma of our American Civil War. And still there are some subjects and topics that aren't discussed by silent mutual consent, even though the topics are well-known.

1) Southerners loyal to the Union and those Southerners who enlisted in the Union Army to fight fellow Southerners.

2) Northerners sympathetic to the Confederacy who openly supported it and those who even enlisted in the Confederate Army.

3) Black men, free or slave, who enlisted in the Confederate Army in the final months of the war when all was lost, making such enlistments meaningless. But this is a painful and taboo subject with Afro-Americans today.

4) Individual minorities who joined either the Union or the Confederacy. History records a Chinese young man in the Union Army as an infantryman and another Chinese man in the Confederacy as a corporal with the artillery.
The Native Indian Americans, namely of the Five Civilized Tribes (or Nations) sided with the Confederacy, hoping to secure their territorial homelands. Finding themselves on the losing side meant little mercy to the Indians after the Civil War.

5) This last one is what the movie, RIDE WITH THE DEVIL entailed, American neighbors who chose sides and ended up fighting each other as partisans, guerrillas, militia, even as bandits and murderers. Ask anybody who survived the pitiless, horrifying civil war in the former Yugoslavia, around 1992 to 1995 and you'll grasp what it must be like to aim a firearm at someone you attended grade school and high school with.

These are all painful memories for Americans to contemplate, even this far away from the war. Americans have forgotten what it was like to fight the British in 1812, the Mexicans in 1846, the Spanish in 1898, the North Koreans and Red Chinese in 1950, but we remember what it was like killing each other as clear as yesterday. If the English Civil War is any precedent, it will take 200 years for the nation to completely get over the trauma.

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1. Has been addressed in a number of films, as recently as The Shadow Riders, with Tom Selleck. I recall an Audie Murphy film that touched on this, as well, but I can't recall the title.
2. Weren't many.
3. This very film addresses this issue.
4. One Chinese guy per Army doesn't strike me as a basis for a compelling story. As for native people joining the Confederacy, The Outlaw Josie Wales touches on this in the character of Lone Watie, Josie's Cherokee pal.
5. Dark Command, The aforementioned Outlaw Josie Wales and several other films, including this one, touch on the Guerrilla warfare in the Border States. None of these topics are "taboo" in the slightest. They just don't all provide fodder for repeated film treatment.

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On #3 I believe the Southerners do not want a Black man near a gun. Most Blacks who served in the Confederacy did not take arms but,mostly just do dirty work under duress. Patrick Claybourne tried with no success to have Blacks armed in exchange for freedom.

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Other taboo subjects, there were free blacks who owned slaves. You'll never se that depicted in the movies. Other, That in 1860 4% of the south owned slaves.

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hey now that's quite a claim. did the freed black man won the lottery and got himself some slaves? a cost of a 'field hand' in today's cost would be comparable to buying yourself a new automobile. of course a new automobile's cost varies, as do the field hands.

so yeah, i'm sure banks in the slave states where all lining up to finance any freed black man to buy up slaves and start up a successful black owned plantation

i'm not stating it never really happened, but i find it really hard to believe, purely from an economical sense, never mind you moral.

you should provide some facts when making a claim like that.

edit: would just like to add that after reading some other threads on this board i've found some wonderful sources that explain black slave owners in the united states

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I assumed that one would google it and research it themselves. That is if they doubted the validity of my post. The largest slave owner in the history of the county I grew up in, Cumberland county NC, was black. In the New orleans area there were a very large number of black slave owners. I really don't understand ur meaning of"explaining black slave owners in the south". Do u mean they provided info or?

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I guess anything is possible. http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm

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No different than Jews who helped round up other Jews for Nazis, to me.

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Considering Slavery still goes on to this day in Africa it does not surprise me Black people owned Slaves back then. In fact I watched "African Americans: many Rivers to cross" about this very topic among others. If this interests you check out "Sometimes in April" a film about the genocide in Rwanda. Hutus massacred Tutsis in '94.

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I'd love to see a movie involving the Southern war resisters who lived near the mountains and who had an "underground railroad" of their own over the Applicihians. Poor whites were not enthusiatic about fighting and dying for the wealthy man's right to own human chattel.

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