Did anyone else notice that wenever pitt mackeson shot his gun, he pursed his lips in a kissing motion. And after he threatens to kill tobey maguire's character in the resteraunt, wen pitt walks outside he makes that weird girlish hand movement. Maybe im the only one who noticed, but what do u guys think?
shareI loved Pitt Mackeson. I noticed his walk when he leaves the resturant, too. It's not too "girly." (At least, I don't think so...)
shareI was really impressed by Jonathan Rhys Meyers in this movie. I didn't like him at all in MATCH POINT, but here he was really powerful. There's a certain kind of deadly menace that comes across when an actor isn't afraid to play a villain with effeminate speech and mannerisms. That really worked well here.
If they ever make a movie of Diana Gabaldon's novel OUTLANDER (called CROSS STITCH in the UK) Jonathan could play Jonathan Randall, the villain.
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Rhys-Meyers camped it up like a crazy man. I agree totally with the above poster about camp villains - check out Tim Roth in *Rob Roy*, for example.
shareaugh! yes I definitely agree with you...Tim Roth in "rob roy" was insanely amazing! I was scared of him...but he didn't look like somebody who could beat you into a million pieces, he just seemed to have perfected the art of cruelty in simpler, more awful ways. I'm totally more impressed with "bad guys" who aren't just "man's men" types.
shareJRM was always pretty swishy in his earlier movies. I count it as part of his charm.
shareIt was partly 'strutting' and partly an posture of defiance.
shareI thought he did an awesome job. His bizarre movements went just far enough to make Pitt scary and unpredictable. I had no clue who he was when we watched this movie. Then we watched Elvis when it was on tv and I was wondering who was this guy and why was he so familiar. Then it hit me who he was. Awesome.
shareHe has played the reprehensible before. What of Titus? Wild Bill Hickock, a player in the Border War, was notoriously girly, so much so that many thought him a hermaphrodite or at least that his consort, Calamity Jane was one. I took Myers' effeminite swagger as being, "I'm so bad that I can swish all I want to and nobody dares call me on it."
He was less swishy and more dead man walking by the final scenes of the movie. Myers' character was a compilation of several real characters of the war, not the least of which was Little Archie Clements, Bloody Bill Anderson's personal assassin. Little Archie was the last commander of Bloody Bill's men and was himself set up and assassinated by Union troops at Lexington, Missouri in 1866, after he'd rode in and surrenderred and received his pardon. It was arguably the end of the Bushwhacker War in Missouri or the Border War which started in 1855, depending on which camp you're in.
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It's a pity that every aspect of your description of James Butler Hickok (including the spelling of his name) is false. Please read a book or two before airing such discredited nonsense again. If I'd seen this posting before, Id have mentioned it earlier.
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It was flat out strange how he shook his but. He was VERY effeminate. I kept thinking his character was so angry because he was too afraid to leave the closet. I really don't understand the appeal with him at all??? I am with you with actors that say a ton without saying very much in their acting (perfect example was Hal Holbrook in Into the Wild). With JRM between this and his overacting in "Matchpoint" I always feel as if I am watching a bad scene in a middle school acting class..
shareI thought casting JRM and Toby was the biggest mistake for this movie. Neither was believable in their roles. Neither of them coud pull off being macho. It was actually quite comical to watch JRM on screen in this movie. I mean I couldn't stop laughing during the scene that the original poster mentioned. Also, why would anyone say that JRM's accent was great. That was just unbearable to hear. Overall this movie was mediocre.
shareI agree that JRM and Tobey were miscast. Though the movie was a bit dull, with better casting it may have been more enjoyable. Tobey just has a monotone voice that does not engage viewers.
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I thought he was great! Another in a long line of effeminate villains ex. Christopher Walken, John Malkovich, Javier Bardem, Anthony Perkins, Robert Walker, his movements reminded me of Mick Jagger. Super performance.
I think JRM made you hate him in the movie. He was someone who'd shoot you in the back given the chance. I watched this the other night and I didn't know it was him until I came here to see who that guy was. He did a fine job.
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