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It's unfair that Jim doesn't get a hot disney princess


The vast majority of Disney male heroes end up with a fine looking girl, so it's unfortunate that Jim didn't get one.
But then i suppose this film wasn't really about romance and he probably wasn't looking for it either.

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I'm getting you wrong. As in, you are wrong. Completely.

Supermodels...spoiled stupid little stick figures mit poofy lips who sink only about zemselves.

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Jim and Silver are NOT gay! (I hate it when people think they're a slash couple, when that's not really true.) But Jim didn't really need to have a girlfriend in the movie. That's not what the story is about. It's loosby based of Robert Louis Stevenson's book and they're both the same thing expect one name from the title is changed and the movie takes place in outer space with strange looking creatures.

Life's what you make it, so let's make it right! Hannah Montana quote from the show

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Jim's too cool and angsty to have time to think about girls. :)

"I hope I'm there, catching some of the light comin' off ya that day." ~Silver, Treasure Planet

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xXErisedaXx: "Jim's too cool and angsty to have time to think about girls."

Jim's still a bit too young and preoccupied to be thinking about girls, too. First he's on an adventure, then he's an academy cadet. Anyway, the only females around worth looking at are his mom and Ameila: not a chance with the latter, and as for the former... gross.

Unless you count Doppler and Amelia, this was not a story about romantic love. If you want to see that, hope for a sequel (or don't, as Disney sequels are usually pretty disappointing). As for the gay angle, don't be absurd.

If there's any innuendo in the film, it concerns Doppler and Amelia. ("I have a lot to offer anatomically... amamomically... astronomically.") Later, I couldn't help noticing that Doppler's last words as Jim goes off on the trek where he meets B.E.N. are something like, "Let's have a look at this," (referring to Amelia's injuries). Presumably he saw a lot of her anatomy while Jim was away. Afterwards, his attitude towards her is completely different.

Some of that, undoubtedly, is that she no longer seems invulnerable, but part of it has to be that he finally noticed she's freaking gorgeous.

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xXErisedaXx: "Jim's too cool and angsty to have time to think about girls."

somethin tells me this person never saw or read Harry Potter XD

Not to mention the pincers -click click click-

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racroen: "Jim's still a bit too young...[]...be thinking about girls, too."

Fifteen is either past the age or the intro age of having your first wet dream and/or morning wood; it is the stage of being interested in sexual activity, or having already had it --- but it's "too young to be thinking about girls? "

He's fifteen, not eight. XD;

The average teenaged boy is armed with raging hormones, a harrowing sex drive, and boiling red blood cells; by thirteen, most of their goals or accomplishments consist of receiving fellatio and reaching second base; romance, no, but has puberty been activated? Hell yes.

Thus, the age group has nothing to do with it.

Preoccupied, however --- yes. That's a proper explanation, because he is too preoccupied to be casually thinking about girls like you said; he's trying to stay alive, physically and emotionally, through more than half of the movie, and all thoughts seemed to be consumed by lack of self-worth due to abandonment issues and lifestyle mishaps, so there's no room for any other casual thought outside of his self-validation of worth: solar-surfing.

But the first segment of the movie was clearly not trying to linger on any fluffy bits about his daily life apart from what was relevant to the driving character theme; it was more like a five minute glimpse before it jumped straight to the adventure, so, who knows what Jim's track record in dating was. If there could be one, due to the seemingly 1% percent human population in his town. He could've been an emotionally detached heartbreaker like his father.

Or maybe he just collected tentacle porn. O' Disney.

Indeed, the book this film is based on is not about the main character finding romance; it's about learning his capabilities and intellectual power as a man, as a boy being forced to grow up, a coming-of-age test for adulthood, or manhood. There's no space for romance; that's why Doppler and Amelia's moments looked utterly random and "could do without."

Though, I will admit that one of the greatest tests in a man's life is a woman, and being fatherless adds a lot of interesting amateurity to that subject; a fatherless boy won't know how to deflect a manipulative Poison Ivy or relate to his mother's perspective of boy-on-girl interaction without having that "Atta Boy" male figure to help out. Without Dad, they don't know how to treat or react to the opposite sex from a male stance, for better or worse, and that's a big part of male growth, as well as teenaged abandonment issues in young men.

That being said, I don't doubt Jim being paired up, rivaled, manipulated, or scorned by a female in a sequel of this film, which has all the Disney-liberties possible, and a "new world" I.E. an academy with a variety of options for the writers to "explore." It'll probably be "The Queen's rebellious daughter" or something of that kind; I could see that cliche even if I strongly don't want to. I prefer the franchise the way it's been since reign ended; leave it as is.

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Hes supposed to be 15.. little to young. Instead it was a friendship was just as good. And they still have the capitan and dobler fall in love so thats took care of that. Awsome movie love it.

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Being 15 actually makes him just a touch younger than most of the Disney princesses, whose canonical ages range from 14 (Snow White) to 19 (Cinderella, Tiana).

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For audiences or his age?

The age group can't have something to do with it, neither in reality, Jim's century placement, or Disney.

In reality, fifteen is right in the heart of "opposite-sex-awareness, sexual attraction," and "hormones." It's when the average boy tries to sneak into every boob-flick they can.

Most have to endure unexpected morning wood by then, after all...so to say it's too young for a romance when it's not even too young for a boner or hiding some Playboy magazines under the mattress doesn't fit, IMHO...

It's probably really just because it wouldn't have made sense for the franchise it was already based on, without taking away from its treasure.

Another overseas TV series gave Jim Hawkins a love interest [and what seemed to have been a prostitute to lose his virginity to at some brief point], and many people seemed upset about him having a title love interest, so I think Disney dodged a cannonball. They kept out of even hinting that he ever engaged in romances in the Treasure Planet video game where he's twenty, too; the human queen could've been an opportunity for that story-wise, even.

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I could see how it's unfair that Jim doesn't have a love interest that's because most Disney movies have a romance going on or a Swashbuckling hero getting the Girl at the end. But this is based on a Classic Novel that's about a boy's adventure into manhood and growing up, in the novel there is no romance. Not every movie, especially every animated Disney movie needs a love story going on. Sometimes it's just an adventure about fun and discovery.

If this movie was successful at the box office, Disney would have continued with a sequel or TV series and there probably would have been a love interest there.

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Hot women aren't prizes men "get" simply for showing up, so there's really nothing "unfair" about it. :)

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"Hot women aren't prizes men "get" simply for showing up"

Yes they are. Ever heard of Rock stars? They are up to their eyeballs in snatch.

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Like you said it didn't need romance.
I mean what?An immortal princess imprisoned on Treasure planet?Oh the usual , the princess can only be freed.By true loves kiss which can break the spell.Blah , blah , blah i've seen it before.


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The reason Jim doesn't get a girl is because the main theme of the movie is not coming of age, but rather a broken, directionless son finally making his mother proud. It's a theme aimed less at the main audience (kids, teens) but more at parents of said audience. If he kissed a girl at the end it would imply him leaving the protection of his mother and becoming a man, and when he doesn't, it implies he's still primarily a son, but a much, much better one, thus making all the mothers in the audience happy.

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At first I thought it was unusual that Jim didn't got a romantic interest. But not every Disney male lead needs a girl.

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there is a major internet following of jim crossovers! people have paired him with mostly ariel and wendy followed by alice, cinderella, belle, jane, merida, nani, etc...not to mention showing the little disney girls (like sofia the first and doc mcstuffins) having puppy love crushes on him! go to google images and type in "jim romance crossovers" or "Jim hawkins romance crossovers". you will see what i mean. you have to check it out!!

by the way, jim is 17 in the film! ;)

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Just like everyone else on this thread said, not every Disney hero/heroine needs a love interest. In fact, I think that's what made Treasure Planet a little unique for me, and for the fact that it's not a musical like every other Disney film (not that I have any problems with musicals).

And besides, I don't think a romance would've been necessary for a story like that.



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