Originally was to be a James Cameron + Arnold Schwarzenegger film - Planet of the Apes (2001) Discussion

[–] FrankG47 11 years ago

I don't know what's worse...

Mark Whalberg or Arnold Schwarzenegger.

If you think Burton is a hack I clearly don't see what makes James Cameron not fall in his category when his writing skills have been god awful ever since people moved past the ZOMG Special Effects in his films. Titanic had a horrible script, and Avatar was a rip off of Dances With Wolves.

There is no way this movie could have been 'awesome'. It was doomed to fail whoever was behind it clearly because there was never a need to remake it. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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[–] ToonsTent 11 years ago

I would take James Cameron over Tim Burton any day.

Cameron really knows how to entertain an audience & keep them on the edge of their seats, while Burton prefers to put his gothic "artistic label" on everything he makes. His "brand". That's why he turned down making any of the Harry Potter sequels ... he would need to follow the same formula as the previous directors.

I agree, the original Planet of the Apes was a great film on it's own, but Hollywood does have an insatiable need to remake everything.

So IMO in the remake, Arnold would have been a much better choice in the lead than Marky Marc.

Like James Cameron, Arnold really knows how to entertain an audience. Yeah his acting ain't great ... but you have to admit it would have been a much more entertaining movie.

Plus perhaps the ending would have made some sense if James Cameron wrote it lol

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[–] Fluke_Skywalker 11 years ago

I actually thought this was the least Burton-like Burton film that I've seen. I'm not a fan of his movies in general either, but he does have a very distinct style and attitude that he managed to keep in check here.

But I would love to have seen what Cameron would've done with this. Not sure Arnie would've been my first choice for the lead role... or even my 78th choice... but he would've brought a certain charisma that was lacking in this effort IMO.

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[–] Electric-101 11 years ago

Go watch Ed Wood, that is the most un-Burton-like movie Burton ever directed.

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[–] FootOfDavros (8699) a year ago

I actually thought this was the least Burton-like Burton film that I've seen.

Agreed. Said the same thing watching this - The space station at the start, the crash site set, etc. Not typically Burton at all...

I don't think Cameron could have made this any better than Burton but seeing Arnie as the lead would certainly have added something to this.

Seems almost like a tragic loss thinking of it now and the performances Arnie put in in the likes of Total Recall & The Running Man. I could absolutely see him fitting in this.

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[–] mbdyson 11 years ago

If you don't like Cameron, fine. But don't support that argument by acting like Avatar was a rip off of Dances with Wolves or Ferngully or anything made within our lifetimes.

The story of an outsider turning on his people and sympathizing and allying himself with the native population is a much older story than that, and it was "ripped off" countless times before Avatar.

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[–] Darwinskid 11 years ago

James Cameron was never going to direct it, he was going to produce it.

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[–] Legendary_Badass 11 years ago

Arnold Schwarzenegger + James Cameron surely would have worked out better than this.

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[–] hogwouth 11 years ago

Arnold Schwarzenegger sounds like a horrible choice. The character would likely be filled with corny one liners.

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[–] dirtyharrylime 11 years ago

Cameron would've done better with this material for sure. Instead of Arnie though I think a better choice would be someone like Tom Cruise, Matt Damon, Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr, etc, someone about 35-45 who you could see playing an astronaut. I'd mention other actors that are not big stars but for a Cameron/Apes Remake I'm sure the studio would demand a big star in the lead. I'm kind of glad this movie didn't work out well though; it sort of helped paved the way for the better series we have now.

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[–] dirtyharrylime 11 years ago

Cameron would've done better with this material for sure. Instead of Arnie though I think a better choice would be someone like Tom Cruise, Matt Damon, Johnny Depp, Robert Downey Jr, etc, someone about 35-45 who you could see playing an astronaut. I'd mention other actors that are not big stars but for a Cameron/Apes Remake I'm sure the studio would demand a big star in the lead.

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[–] HumanTheONLyRace 10 years ago

Vince Vaughn as director, script by M Knight Shaymalyn, starring Mike Epps, Danny Glover and Whoopi goldberg

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[–] mountaindewslave 9 years ago

Heston had plenty of one liners in the original Apes movie and it still was great. Just take away the cheese/corn factor of Arnold's lines and he would have been great in a Planet of the Apes movie

at their core they're sci-fi / action flicks anyway, and that's totally in Schwarzeneggar's alley. he's an underrated actor and I feel as if he would have been far more of an interesting draw than Marky Mark (and I like Wahlberg but this role was just not good for him)

Even cheesy over the top "Predator" or "Total Recall" Schwarzeneggar I think would have been more appropriate for an Apes film than Wahlberg in this. but Arnold does have some range and has played other roles as well

at any rate we'll never know. Schwarzeneggar in an Apes movie and Nicholas Cage in the hypothetical Superman movie are some of my biggest 'what ifs' that I ponder in terms of potentially lost awesome film opportunities

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[–] engseng 9 years ago

If Arnold was the star of this movie, right before he leaves in the spaceship he will tell everyone "I'll be back."

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[–] BKB (11285) a year ago

I can only imagine what a James Cameron SPIDER-MAN movie would've been like??

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[–] TimeTunnel (4769) a year ago

BKB (1658) 3 hours ago
I can only imagine what a James Cameron SPIDER-MAN movie would've been like??

Now that's a nice question, isn't it ??????????

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[–] bozo_500 (13385) a year ago

https://screenrant.com/planet-apes-james-cameron-arnold-schwarzenegger-plot-about/

would have been a sequel to original 68 Apes starring Arnold with Charlton Heston returning as Taylor (retconning Beneath the Apes probably due to altered timeline stuff.. a good 20years before Cameron did the same with Terminator Dark Fate)

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