It looks like Captain Leo Davidson would have had to travel through the time storm and go into the past BEFORE the Space Station crashed on Earth and prevented the uprising but, instead, he traveled to the current time's future where Thade got control back and became the hero. The only thing that throws me is that the ships time clock shows him going back in time, not ahead. Any thoughts?
shareOne thought: it wasn't Earth that the space station crashed on. Notice that the planet has more than one moon and it revolves around a binary star system.
Basically, the time hole that Leo went through went between our Solar System in 2029 and to the planet that he landed on (named Ashlar in official publications that spun off from the film) in 5021. Pericles goes through the hole first, Leo follows, then the Oberon (the space station) follows Leo to rescue him. When they arrive on the other side of the hole onto the new planet, things are reversed: first it's the Oberon and its human and ape occupants who crash on the new planet's surface, then Leo arrives some thousands of years later, then Pericles follows a couple of days afterwards. The hole allows for travel between our Solar System and "Ashlar" or vice versa, but not from Earth to Earth or "Ashlar" to "Ashlar", so what you propose wouldn't have worked with the film's *ahem* logic.
Thing is, Leo thought that by going in the hole he'd get back to Earth during the time that he left, he didn't think that the apes would be running the show there when he arrived. He didn't know that Thade managed to overcome his situation back on "Ashlar" and followed him, and even then he wouldn't have worked out that he'd have changed things on Earth to the extent that they changed. See, he goes back first, but Thade follows him later on and arrives on Earth way before Leo does, causing changes (forget the arguments about how the hell he managed that or that he managed to fix a pod and fly it ;) ).
Another thing, your suggestion that he went forwards in time (despite the ship's clock showing otherwise) and was always on Earth, doesn't tie in with the official explanation of the film, which says that Leo came back to Earth in his original time after his visit to that other planet. There was an officially produced card in the DVDs that explained this: http://media.photobucket.com/user/maxflier/media/Document.jpg.html?fil ters[term]=planet%20of%20the%20apes%20dvd%20insert&filters[primary ]=images
More about the plot here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_%282001_film%29#Plot
Hmm... you're still reading this, right? I do tend to waffle on and on now and then. ;)
Yep, read all of your post. I forgot that Leo wasn't on Earth. I thought that the space station went back in OUR time, taught chimps in our past resulting in them overthrowing us in our primitive times.
shareIt's not too hard to believe Thade fixed the pod and followed, that's what happened in the old series with Escape, they just happened to fix the old space ship and escape before the bomb when off. lol We accepted it then, we can accept it now I guess.
shareIt's not too hard to believe Thade fixed the pod and followed, that's what happened in the old series with Escape, they just happened to fix the old space ship and escape before the bomb when off. lol We accepted it then, we can accept it now I guess.
I'm not a huge fan of Escape, (I like conquest) but things like this I can just accept.. I can from the nation that created Doctor Who, so we kinda grew up on impossible things happening because it just needs to happen to keep the story going. lol
It's more plausible in this remake because Thade and others could have years to fix it, understand it while in Escape they don't because the planet is about to blow up, Even if it took Thade 10 years it wouldn't matter too much.
But on both occasions, the remake and Escape it was pretty much written on the spot, as a last minute fix.
I can from the nation that created Doctor Who, so we kinda grew up on impossible things happening because it just needs to happen to keep the story going. lol
It's more plausible in this remake because Thade and others could have years to fix it, understand it while in Escape they don't because the planet is about to blow up, Even if it took Thade 10 years it wouldn't matter too much.
picking apart anything is good fun, even films you like. I always like to put what happens on screen into some kind of context. I can believe Thade repaired the pod and escaped, or there was another, nobody really inspect the ruins too closely, the apes kept away from it until Leo turned up, and he didn't search the place.
Maybe the ship in escape wasn't as badly damaged, and the crew jumped the gun. I don't recall them having the time to inspect the ship to closely, so I guess there was always wriggle room with that idea.
But Rise was a great, and Dawn looks awesome and it's exciting seeing a new proper ape saga under way.
with Escape, they just happened to fix the old space ship and escape before the bomb when off. lol We accepted it then,